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  • audinut
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jul 2009
    • 2195
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    ok i didnt have time to get the bore scope out , the lifters go up and down with the engine turning , they kinda feel/seem the same , it was blowing blue smoke when it came in

    its definately a burnt out or bent valve as i cant see it being melted rings or a hole in the piston
    NOT a car dealer! just an S2/RS2 enthusiast

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    • LSG
      S2Forum Maniac
      • May 2010
      • 897
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #17
      Can you do a leak down test. ? Do you have a tester or would you like me to pop one over to you. Also has the cylinder been bore washed ? This could also give you low / no compression.

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      • audinut
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Jul 2009
        • 2195
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        yea good plan and thanks for the offer , im pretty sure theres a leak down kit in the workshop

        i would have thought a washed bore would still give me a small reading ?
        NOT a car dealer! just an S2/RS2 enthusiast

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        • Ian Simmonds
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Jun 2005
          • 2858
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #19
          Ours, about 15 years ago, had loss of compression and it turned out to be a slipped valve seat partially holding the valve open.
          85 WR Urquattro, 85 20vT International liveried RallyRep
          93 MTMS2 Avant

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          • chezz
            S2Forum Addict
            • Apr 2007
            • 440
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #20
            maybe a valve collet has slipped and jammed the valve...take the cam out - you don't need to remove the head to do this and examine the valve /spring/followers ...something physically has to be causing this problem.

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            • stocious
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Jul 2012
              • 838
              • Country: Ireland

              #21
              Get some compressed air in the cylinder if nothing is visually apparent and have a listen. It should be a loud leak if zero compression .
              1991 S2 3B Coupe, KW v1, solid sub frames, poly bushed, chipped, about 260 ish

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              • adam g
                S2Forum Addict
                • Feb 2007
                • 445
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                Hmm, blue smoke could mean holed piston or head gasket gone. Agree a hole in piston is unlikely unless it is tuned or modified ecu.

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                • audinut
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 2195
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #23
                  compression test results

                  cylinder 1 - 100 , cylinder 2 - 95 , cylinder 3 - 75 , cylinder 4 - 35 , cylinder 5 - 0

                  headgasket anyone?
                  NOT a car dealer! just an S2/RS2 enthusiast

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                  • s2driveruk
                    Super Moderator
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 12696
                    • Country: England

                    #24
                    thats odd...the compression test shows consistent leakdowns from 1-5...not sure i've ever seen that before?
                    sigpic

                    1992 3b S2 Coupe

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                    • Ian Simmonds
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 2858
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      Almost as if the head hasn't been screwed down properly one end...
                      85 WR Urquattro, 85 20vT International liveried RallyRep
                      93 MTMS2 Avant

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                      • audinut
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 2195
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #26
                        mmm I know , if you want me to make it even more odd , how about this it was stored for 7 years , current owner bought it and took it to dialynx who replaced the fuel system there advice was to drive it once a week , he hasn't and has just stored it and occasionally started it .

                        the other day when he collected it he said it started fine and drove with no misfire for at least 15-20 mins (he thought he had a fuel issue as it had been in the tank for so long) he then said it started messing around after that.

                        so from no misfire to the compression readings I have now
                        NOT a car dealer! just an S2/RS2 enthusiast

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                        • s2driveruk
                          Super Moderator
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 12696
                          • Country: England

                          #27
                          yeah exactly, normally you have a few at very similar pressures and one or more fluctuations. Like that as you say Ian, looks like its not on properly.
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                          1992 3b S2 Coupe

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                          • Ian Simmonds
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 2858
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #28
                            Just a thought, but after 20 minutes the whole block/head etc will have expanded and be hot. Maybe it was seven years of stone cold inactivity followed by this heat cycle that's freed up the head studs.
                            85 WR Urquattro, 85 20vT International liveried RallyRep
                            93 MTMS2 Avant

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                            • stocious
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 838
                              • Country: Ireland

                              #29
                              Originally posted by audinut
                              compression test results

                              cylinder 1 - 100 , cylinder 2 - 95 , cylinder 3 - 75 , cylinder 4 - 35 , cylinder 5 - 0

                              headgasket anyone?
                              what happens when a wet test is done, just out of interest ? looks like there something to be learned fro this, thanks for posting comp results ect..

                              just had thought, does the oil stink of petrol by any chance ?
                              Last edited by stocious; 10 June 2013, 15:41.
                              1991 S2 3B Coupe, KW v1, solid sub frames, poly bushed, chipped, about 260 ish

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                              • audinut
                                S2Forum Fiend
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 2195
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #30
                                Originally posted by stocious
                                just had thought, does the oil stink of petrol by any chance ?
                                i havent had a chance to check but i will tomorrow
                                NOT a car dealer! just an S2/RS2 enthusiast

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