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  • Majorcina
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jun 2013
    • 1334
    • Country: Montenegro

    #1

    Biger IC question

    Hello guys,i was wondering will i gain/lose power if i fit a biger IC on urs4 chiped by prj?
    Maybe in long ways i will go with rs2 set up but for now i cant go for that set up
  • UrS4boy
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Feb 2006
    • 11859
    • Country: Canada

    #2
    Originally posted by Majorcina
    Hello guys,i was wondering will i gain/lose power if i fit a biger IC on urs4 chiped by prj? Maybe in long ways i will go with rs2 set up but for now i cant go for that set up
    Here is a summary of opinions I recently gave macspring in answer to his question about FMICs:

    Stock turbo, no chips = waste of time and money

    Stock turbo and 3 Bar chip set = very marginal increase, not worth the money. Spend it on a good exhaust manifold instead.

    RS2 turbo on AAN = not a bad idea, OE IC gets around heat soak on repetitive WOT cycles, e.g. tracking or "Spirited" driving on twisty country roads. FMIC will give improvements in that situation.

    GT3071 and larger on AAN = really good idea

    Statement: Around town with a RS2 Hybrid, it might be a good idea if the budget and time wasn't too tight.

    Comment: Around town = very marginal improvement, even with the odd WOT. There won't be enough of them in close enough succession to cause heat soak in the OE SMIC.

    If you did decide to add a FMIC, the core can't be thicker than 2.5" because of the minimal room behind your "Euro bumper" (as opposed to the NAmerican front UrS bumpers). This link provides a DIY guide for you, should you need it:

    EDITED LINK = http://www.audifans.net/ftopict-15234-intercooler.html

    In my opinion
    Last edited by UrS4boy; 20 April 2014, 23:25.
    RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
    94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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    • Majorcina
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Jun 2013
      • 1334
      • Country: Montenegro

      #3
      Thank's Dave,but i cant open the link? it says "Sorry, this Module isn't active!"

      So if i understand good i wont gain anything with biger IC?

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      • Wrath
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Jan 2011
        • 779
        • Country: Sweden

        #4


        Here you go ! But if I where to do that I should have made my own tanks that are tilted or rounded to suit the front bumper, don´t like that install so much, looks a little tacky in my eyes...
        1995 Audi S6 - AAN (~350hp)
        2008 BMW 530xd (235hp)
        2008 Hyundai i30 - 1.6 CRDI (89hp)
        2011 KTM 990 SMR - custom tuned (120whp)

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        • Majorcina
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Jun 2013
          • 1334
          • Country: Montenegro

          #5
          Thanks Wrath,now i can see it.but still my consern is will i get any benefit with a biger IC?or i will end up loosing spool and power?

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          • Wrath
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Jan 2011
            • 779
            • Country: Sweden

            #6
            As UrS4boy stated before, if you don´t going to upgrade and have massive power you don´t need it... what´s your goal with the engine?
            1995 Audi S6 - AAN (~350hp)
            2008 BMW 530xd (235hp)
            2008 Hyundai i30 - 1.6 CRDI (89hp)
            2011 KTM 990 SMR - custom tuned (120whp)

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            • Majorcina
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Jun 2013
              • 1334
              • Country: Montenegro

              #7
              Well,if i will do any upgrade i will probably go or rs2 set up or holset hx35,in any case will go to 360 to max 400

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              • Wrath
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Jan 2011
                • 779
                • Country: Sweden

                #8
                Here´s a dyno of a Urs6 avant with some 034 parts and you can see the different with stock intercooler and custom made intercooler...

                1995 Audi S6 - AAN (~350hp)
                2008 BMW 530xd (235hp)
                2008 Hyundai i30 - 1.6 CRDI (89hp)
                2011 KTM 990 SMR - custom tuned (120whp)

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                • Majorcina
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 1334
                  • Country: Montenegro

                  #9
                  Hmm intresting,thanks again guys for help i think i wont put it untill i definetly decide to power upgrade

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                  • Wrath
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 779
                    • Country: Sweden

                    #10
                    a buddy of mine uses a hx35 with stock internals of engine and clutch, only different is rs2 exhaust manifold, 3" exhaust, bigger fuel injectorsk, a wallbro fuelpump and VEMS... his boost is 2 bar and with stock intercooler... and that car is quite fast... just for an example... but of course with a good intercooler you take away some stress...
                    1995 Audi S6 - AAN (~350hp)
                    2008 BMW 530xd (235hp)
                    2008 Hyundai i30 - 1.6 CRDI (89hp)
                    2011 KTM 990 SMR - custom tuned (120whp)

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                    • Majorcina
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 1334
                      • Country: Montenegro

                      #11
                      So tempting....but i dunno will i go in that step soon becose my main problem is remap...Do u know on how much power he run?

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                      • Wrath
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 779
                        • Country: Sweden

                        #12
                        No idea really but should be in the range of 375-400 I guess, don´t remember what housing he used... I´m going with a K26/27 turbo and it will be in the same range I guess... also use VEMS , but this winter it was chassie and brake time, I hope it will be done this summer, are on sick leave as I broke my back a little
                        1995 Audi S6 - AAN (~350hp)
                        2008 BMW 530xd (235hp)
                        2008 Hyundai i30 - 1.6 CRDI (89hp)
                        2011 KTM 990 SMR - custom tuned (120whp)

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                        • Wrath
                          S2Forum Maniac
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 779
                          • Country: Sweden

                          #13
                          Aint Dmitir (PRJ) in your region somewhere? Don´t know how much he takes for a remap, but he knows his motronic if you not going with a aftermarket system like VEMS, MaxxECU, Autronic etc.
                          1995 Audi S6 - AAN (~350hp)
                          2008 BMW 530xd (235hp)
                          2008 Hyundai i30 - 1.6 CRDI (89hp)
                          2011 KTM 990 SMR - custom tuned (120whp)

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                          • Majorcina
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 1334
                            • Country: Montenegro

                            #14
                            I talked before abouth this with Dmitri,but the closest place is 400km+

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                            • Wrath
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 779
                              • Country: Sweden

                              #15
                              I understand, but hey can´t you just rent or lent a trailer for it and take it there when you are ready with the car and you have that extra free cash?
                              1995 Audi S6 - AAN (~350hp)
                              2008 BMW 530xd (235hp)
                              2008 Hyundai i30 - 1.6 CRDI (89hp)
                              2011 KTM 990 SMR - custom tuned (120whp)

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