1.8T Coil Upgrade

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  • Jack4688
    S2Forum Extremist
    • May 2010
    • 1004
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    1.8T Coil Upgrade

    What's the advantage of upgrading your coils on an ABY? Is it only worth it if you are doing many engine mods or will it improve a standard or just remapped ABY?

    I'm thinking of buying a set for sale here but not sure it's worth my bother. Thanks in advance
  • quattro-nick
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Sep 2012
    • 1746
    • Country: Belgium

    #2
    I think they are much more reliable than the origionele one(getting extreme hot under the coilcover) and also reduce the kost if you replace one
    i use v8 redcoils,great stuff
    audi coupe quattro b2 2.2 20vt project (573hp-626nm)
    TWINCHARGED power,zero lag
    AEM W/M injection

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    • Jack4688
      S2Forum Extremist
      • May 2010
      • 1004
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      So is it only worth it if you are having ignition related reliability problems?

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      • Error404
        Super Moderator
        • Mar 2007
        • 19789
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        The OEM ignition system is very high quality, but it is getting old. Sooner or later your coils and/or POS units will fail, at that point it is cheaper to swap to the 1.8/2.0T coils as the OEM S2 parts are very expensive
        Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
        Indigo ABY coupé
        Imola B6 S4 Avant

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        • Jack4688
          S2Forum Extremist
          • May 2010
          • 1004
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          Ah so are people doing it mainly for that reason? I.e. not for increased performance

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          • Error404
            Super Moderator
            • Mar 2007
            • 19789
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            No, there is no performance benefit unless you are having issues with your OEM gear
            Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
            Indigo ABY coupé
            Imola B6 S4 Avant

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            • Jack4688
              S2Forum Extremist
              • May 2010
              • 1004
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              Thanks, you've just saved me from spending money where I didn't need to!

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              • Error404
                Super Moderator
                • Mar 2007
                • 19789
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                No use spending money for no reason
                You've probably jinxed it now though
                When you need to do the swap, gimme a shout I can sort your out a harness
                Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                Indigo ABY coupé
                Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                • Christophski
                  S2Forum Possessed
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 3632
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Jack, when you do the swap, Alex makes a top quality harness that looks OEM. I should know, I have one of his fitted to my car ane even my mate who builds show cars that win things at Edition was impressed with it!

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                  • Error404
                    Super Moderator
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 19789
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Cheers Chris
                    Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                    Indigo ABY coupé
                    Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                    • UrS4boy
                      S2Forum Obsessed
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 11859
                      • Country: Canada

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jack4688
                      What's the advantage of upgrading your coils on an ABY? Is it only worth it if you are doing many engine mods or will it improve a standard or just remapped ABY?
                      I developed the 1.8T coilpack alternative for the AAN (and ABY and ADU) engines back in 2005 (hard to believe it's that long ago) as an alternative in case the expensive OE POS and coil system became NLA in the future (this is now getting close to being true). In 2004, I had gone to RS2 standards (plus - actually around 380 hp at the time) and by 2005 was experiencing some missing with the OE POSs and coils. Rather than spend about $1000 to replace the entire OE system with new POSs and coils, I developed the first 1.8T coil pack conversion. I then wrote up a detailed DIY and shared it on the internet. Subsequently in April 2006 034 and Apikol came out with commercialized versions of what I had done as a DIY (I got no credit/mention from either - which still P's me off to this day).

                      The 1.8t coilpack conversion was never intended as an upgrade. Just a lower cost and capable alternative to the OE system. With the improvement of the VAG coil packs regarding reliability, this is a real option for those that do not intend to track their cars (there is an ECU dwell issue which if uncorrected by people like prj, will tend to kill the coil packs for those that regularly track their cars (sustained high RPMs) - for normal spirited driving they are more than fine). The recommended coilpacks are the latest 2.0T coil packs or the red V8 coil packs, the 115Es.

                      Here is a photo of my engine, now running an Apikol harness (my original harness was still functioning fine but it was very FUGLY compared to the professionally done harnesses). I highly recommend running no cover whatsoever and specifically not the OE "20V turbo" cover since it will cause coilpack heat death.

                      RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                      94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                      • quattro-nick
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 1746
                        • Country: Belgium

                        #12
                        this is my coil setup(red v8 coils)
                        i made the wireloom myself
                        Attached Files
                        audi coupe quattro b2 2.2 20vt project (573hp-626nm)
                        TWINCHARGED power,zero lag
                        AEM W/M injection

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                        • UrS4boy
                          S2Forum Obsessed
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 11859
                          • Country: Canada

                          #13
                          Originally posted by quattro-nick
                          this is my coil setup(red v8 coils)
                          i made the wireloom myself
                          Very nice job. Far nicer than my first 2005 attempt.
                          RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                          94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                          • quattro-nick
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 1746
                            • Country: Belgium

                            #14
                            thanks
                            audi coupe quattro b2 2.2 20vt project (573hp-626nm)
                            TWINCHARGED power,zero lag
                            AEM W/M injection

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                            • quattro-nick
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Sep 2012
                              • 1746
                              • Country: Belgium

                              #15
                              i have adapt the coilcover and use it on the road but remove it if i go on track
                              Attached Files
                              audi coupe quattro b2 2.2 20vt project (573hp-626nm)
                              TWINCHARGED power,zero lag
                              AEM W/M injection

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