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  • WabTheKing
    S2Forum Fiend
    • May 2004
    • 2567
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    10 injectors

    seen this done on a few cosworths where they double up on injectors and on that picture of that 25v 2.2 engine that was posted the other day, obviously the ecu would need a remap and i would expect higher fuel rail pressure but would anything be gained from this instead of using 5 higher volume injectors?
  • jogi730
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jun 2004
    • 2335
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Originally posted by WabTheKing
    seen this done on a few cosworths where they double up on injectors and on that picture of that 25v 2.2 engine that was posted the other day, obviously the ecu would need a remap and i would expect higher fuel rail pressure but would anything be gained from this instead of using 5 higher volume injectors?
    This also interests me as I have little mechanical knowledge.
    It was explained to me by the guy that put my engine together ( he specialises in Cossies!) that putting an extra 5 injectors is the way to go (interestingly, apparently some bikes also doubling up injectors). In this way the car idles more smoothly and prevents overfuelling which could result in cylinder (bore) wash.
    What are other peoples thoughts?
    Chris
    Audi 90 quattro (Typ 85)
    20v turbo conversion

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    • Billman
      S2Forum Freak
      • Nov 2004
      • 4129

      #3
      The audi S1 and IMSA series cars had also 5+5 injectors!
      Go Holset or Go RS4

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      • WabTheKing
        S2Forum Fiend
        • May 2004
        • 2567
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        im buying an aan manifold so while im cutting and caving that i was going to machine 5 more holes on the underside for injectors if it was a feaseable idea

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        • Pisobiker
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Jul 2003
          • 1175
          • Country: Finland

          #5
          In very high output applications, if you can find the way of putting some narrow spray pattern injectors in the outer plenum plate, with the injector spraying over each runner bellmouth, you will enhance mid to high rpm performances.
          On high rpms and flow velocityes the fuel injected in the OEM position just doesn't have the time to perfectly mix to the air stream, so if a stand alone ECU able to run 5 + 5 injectors or an additional injection module (even a piggy back ECU might work) is used, the additional injectors could start spraying at air flows where the OEM ones run out of flow.

          Marco

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          • Greg_S
            Administrator
            • Jul 2003
            • 12430
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            I think it can be done with higher flowing injectors eliminating the need for an extra 5 next to OEM ones, I know doug has some of these and they are good for high HP applications.
            Greg

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            • WabTheKing
              S2Forum Fiend
              • May 2004
              • 2567
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              could they run off the existing injector loom, simply piggy backed off the originals?

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              • Greg_S
                Administrator
                • Jul 2003
                • 12430
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Im not sure, you could probably use the same signal to drive another output stage to run some more injectors. But with larger injectors you dont need to add more injectors.
                Greg

                S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

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                • Mihnea
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 1288
                  • Home: Belgium Current: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  The stock ECU can be programmed to operate 10 injectors, I have BTDT already.

                  BUT, you don't really need them. There are 650+ cc/min injectors available in high-impedance which run and idle just fine with a Motronic ECU controlling them. Doug has them and so does Mark...

                  HTH,

                  Mihnea
                  '98 Silver Grey 2.7T S4, dual 2.75" turbo back exhaust with no cats, FMIC, BIG injectors, 10 Bar motorsport fuel pump, modded RS4 turbos, tubular exhaust manifolds, custom intakes, RS4 MAF, Bilstein PSS9, H&R ARBs, 19" BBS CH, custom remap, 511 BHP/505ft-lbs

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                  • audiman
                    S2Forum Freak
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 4827
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    I had thought about 10 injectors, but didnt see the point after Mihnea came up with the 550cc injectors that i have. These are coping fine at fuelling for my BHP. Maybe if I go for 550bhp I will have to change up to Dougs/Marks size
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