3b motronic, please help with chip ID

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  • prj
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Mar 2010
    • 6308
    • Country: Estonia

    #31
    Originally posted by domas
    But something has to be done. I repeat a question for you prj - Can I acquire an ecu intended for a stock (apart from ecu itself) car that is chipped to 1,3-4bar with 1,5bar sensor without getting my car live mapped? Or does that need to be really precise for each individual engine? What is a rule of thumb here?
    I do have a generic Stage 1 for 3B. 1.35 bar setpoint with a 250kpa sensor and boost cut intact.
    And I know this because I calibrated it myself. Not bought it online or stole it from someone
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    • domas
      S2Forum Addict
      • Oct 2014
      • 307
      • Country: Lithuania

      #32
      Prj, what do you want for it? is it only chips and sensor or is it whole ecu you are selling?
      UrS4Boy, yes, i know, it was just easier to compare it this way to turbo pressure or "overpressure" call it what you want, i know it is not exactly correct, but everybody knows what we are talking about ;-]

      As far as i tend to notice, if you express yourself in bar's you refer to boost pressure a.k.a atmospheric minus ~1. Kpa is normally used for values including atmospheric pressure. But there is no correct nomenclature for this

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      • prj
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Mar 2010
        • 6308
        • Country: Estonia

        #33
        I don't have any 3B ecu's.

        So it's going to be sensor and chips…
        I've got about 200 (yes two hundred) 250kpa sensors, from installing all the 400kpa's in various AAN/ABY/ADU ECU's, so no shortage of those.

        As for price… PM, I don't want this thread turning into a sales pitch.
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        • mini_GUN
          S2Forum Hobbyist
          • Nov 2010
          • 10
          • Country: France

          #34
          Prj, I hope you d'ont mean me when you say stolen.
          my 3b made also 0,4 bar with n75 off.

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          • rxl
            S2Forum Extremist
            • May 2012
            • 1913
            • Country: Germany

            #35
            i got some 3b stock chips if you want them i can send it to you for postage...

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            • domas
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              • Oct 2014
              • 307
              • Country: Lithuania

              #36
              by stock you mean chipped maps for stock hardware or stock (0,8 bar) chips?

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              • rxl
                S2Forum Extremist
                • May 2012
                • 1913
                • Country: Germany

                #37
                Originally posted by domas
                by stock you mean chipped maps for stock hardware or stock (0,8 bar) chips?
                Stock is stock.

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                • prj
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                  • Mar 2010
                  • 6308
                  • Country: Estonia

                  #38
                  Originally posted by mini_GUN
                  Prj, I hope you d'ont mean me when you say stolen.
                  my 3b made also 0,4 bar with n75 off.
                  I don't mean you stole it. I mean usually those who sell these things on eBay, forum etc did not make the software themselves and have no idea what is inside. They stole it, simple as that.
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                  • domas
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                    • Oct 2014
                    • 307
                    • Country: Lithuania

                    #39
                    Ok, so I have found out that my software has no boost limit to utilize 200kpa sensor for boost levels of 1+bar. This is not so good. Been fine so far. I will install better software with 250kpa sender later this year. Got a quote already. But before proceeding I must solve an interesting boost drop problem.
                    To keep things on topic, I have started another thread:

                    Please chime in.

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                    • pasbogdan
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 1160
                      • Country: Romania

                      #40
                      Boost drop can be caused also via n75 by your software.
                      Go stock or get good software.
                      Example:I have 3b s2.
                      Bought it with ultimot sw inside,ecu with 2bar map inside.Also i received with the car a spare 3b ecu with 2.5 bar map inside and an advertized "homefry"bought from here by previous owner.I have read the software from the eproms and i can not find out if the software on them is the real one(i mean homefry) or safe to use.
                      I have no time to install a boost gauge in my car,and afr gauge.I have them from my aan urs4.I also have tons of aan ecu's and i also have bought aan software with 3 bar map from Dmitri.I also do not have time for aan pin-swap and conversion coils(i have coils and conversion loom for aan)

                      So? I run STOCK 3b software,because i love my car,and at 150k km on the dash i will not get the beauty on the streets without having a good source software or afr gauge installed.Why?Tons of reasons,you will see them in other members engine rebuild topics or even in mines.

                      Regards,

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                      • domas
                        S2Forum Addict
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 307
                        • Country: Lithuania

                        #41
                        Originally posted by pasbogdan
                        Boost drop can be caused also via n75 by your software.
                        Go stock or get good software.
                        Example:I have 3b s2.
                        Bought it with ultimot sw inside,ecu with 2bar map inside.Also i received with the car a spare 3b ecu with 2.5 bar map inside and an advertized "homefry"bought from here by previous owner.I have read the software from the eproms and i can not find out if the software on them is the real one(i mean homefry) or safe to use.
                        I have no time to install a boost gauge in my car,and afr gauge.I have them from my aan urs4.I also have tons of aan ecu's and i also have bought aan software with 3 bar map from Dmitri.I also do not have time for aan pin-swap and conversion coils(i have coils and conversion loom for aan)

                        So? I run STOCK 3b software,because i love my car,and at 150k km on the dash i will not get the beauty on the streets without having a good source software or afr gauge installed.Why?Tons of reasons,you will see them in other members engine rebuild topics or even in mines.

                        Regards,
                        Well if you read the first post you could have noticed that I have tried another modified ecu that was used on another car. The owner of another car instantly noticed that "the boost should not drop like this". The ecu was shipped from USA that was modified by Ben Swann. Is he a good source? Well he is well known and popular. Does that make his software reliable? Doesn't matter.
                        That ecu was tested on another car, and it behaved differently (read: no/low boost drop) there.
                        I know I am running an unsafe piece of software now and i am changing it at some point this year. But before I do so, I want to solve this problem

                        Else, I am not sure if I understood correctly what was the thought behind the example about your s2.

                        But thank you for the ideas guys. I hope this gets solved

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                        • pasbogdan
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 1160
                          • Country: Romania

                          #42
                          The idea is:
                          You you have s2,if you love the car you abuse the engine long periods only with afr gauge or failsafe functions kept in the software.
                          If you have s2 or any i5 20vt car because it is a fast car go try other manufacturers,you will find even better.

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                          • domas
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                            • Oct 2014
                            • 307
                            • Country: Lithuania

                            #43
                            Ok so I understood it correctly the first time. I know what you mean. But technical problem has to be solved and it is done here now: http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74975

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