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  • freakytate
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    • Jun 2014
    • 206
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    runnjng no isv?

    Hi. Whats implications of running aby with isv unplugged? Seems to raise idle a little but smoother. My isv is rotating too ive tested it. Got little miss / hesitation. Otherwise could be lambda. Wot is ok.
  • UrS4boy
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    • Feb 2006
    • 11859
    • Country: Canada

    #2
    Missing and Hesitation Diagnostic

    Originally posted by freakytate
    Hi. Whats implications of running aby with isv unplugged? Seems to raise idle a little but smoother. My isv is rotating too ive tested it. Got little miss / hesitation. Otherwise could be lambda. Wot is ok.
    If the ISV is moving easily, your ABY miss will have *NOTHING* to do with the ISV. It is more likely to be an ignition issue. See below:

    ISV Info: http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4s6/msgs/21853.phtml

    Missing and hesitation diagnostics: http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4s6/msgs/22611.phtml

    Good luck hunting.
    RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
    94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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    • freakytate
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      • Jun 2014
      • 206
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      I pulled each inj plug and they all seem to make a difference to idle and a much more pronounced miss when throttling..its not like a positive miss just idle bit irratic sometimes and hesitates on cruise. Wot is ok but partial throttle and cruising is a little hesitant and idle is a little irratic. Could my lambda be causing issues. Since I played with wires coming from top of lambda yesterdsy it seemed to get better and my mpg increased. Managed 25 up from usual 19mpg.

      Il read pos unit info when I get a minute

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      • UrS4boy
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        • Feb 2006
        • 11859
        • Country: Canada

        #4
        G39 Lambda and G70 MAF sensor info to check out.

        At least by pulling the injector electrical connectors you now know (hope) that it is not ignition. Definitely not ISV which is only active when the idle switch on the throttle potentiometer is closed.

        Might be G39 Lambda: http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4s6/msgs/21012.phtml

        *BUT* more probably the G70 MAF sensor (the first thing I list in the missing and hesitation diagnostic): http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4s6/msgs/20442.phtml

        RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
        94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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        • Error404
          Super Moderator
          • Mar 2007
          • 19789
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          What fault codes are you getting?
          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
          Indigo ABY coupé
          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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          • freakytate
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            • Jun 2014
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            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Thanks. Im getting 00525 g39 lambda intermittent signal. I played with wires on top of it yesterday and it did get better and mpg went up. Gone back same today. Im sure it looks like one of the cables insulation has come away at the point it leaces the lambda. But im not 100% sure on that

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            • UrS4boy
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              • Feb 2006
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              #7
              Originally posted by freakytate
              Thanks. Im getting 00525 g39 lambda intermittent signal. I played with wires on top of it yesterday and it did get better and mpg went up. Gone back same today. Im sure it looks like one of the cables insulation has come away at the point it leaces the lambda. But im not 100% sure on that
              So it doesn't look like this?



              This close up shows the connectors, the 1 pin spade connector for the ECU signal and the 2 pin connector for the O2 sensor heater element. Sounds like the single wire and connector is your issue.

              RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
              94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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              • freakytate
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                • Jun 2014
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                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                Yeah it looks like that but im sure where cables leave top of lambda the insulation has broken down a little. I going to run vagcom on it again. Need to know measure blocks for heating element and how much the readings should fluctuate

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                • Rusty
                  Super Moderator
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 18953
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Get a new lambda & also do a compression test.
                  Cheers'en, AndyC
                  1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                  • freakytate
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                    • Jun 2014
                    • 206
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    A what test what figuires would I be looking for accross the board. She done high mileage but in fairness runs well and quiet. Only power steering pump noisy. I f##king love this car

                    Any preference as to make of lambda?

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                    • UrS4boy
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                      • Feb 2006
                      • 11859
                      • Country: Canada

                      #11
                      Originally posted by freakytate
                      Any preference as to make of lambda?
                      Bosch.

                      The G39 O2 sensor has a finite life and will need to be replaced periodically,e.g. every 60K miles, or so. The OE Part No. for the UrS4 is 034906265F (Bosch 0 258 003 957). For the UrS6 the OE PN is 077906265. The Bosch 0258003957 is also traded as = Bosch USA 13019 = Bosch USA 13957. Also 13953 Bosch 3 wire (92 V8 Mustang, 16.5" long wire, $40 @ Autozone) probably works and maybe Bosch 13913 3 wire Universal (under $40 at Autozone). Volvo 940Ts used the 13957 and can use the 953 and 913.

                      Bosch 0258003957 (13957):

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