Timing Locking Tool 3256 Position

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  • bilko0795
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Feb 2011
    • 1883
    • Country: Wales

    #1

    Timing Locking Tool 3256 Position

    As per title i am in the process of renewing the crank oil seal i have just bought the locking tool from audi and appears to be in the wrong position anyone have a picture of the said tool in place on the crank pulley here is the one i have when i changed the belts a few months ago using Kit's home made one it did not look like this. All the timing marks are ok.
  • AndyP
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Feb 2004
    • 6049
    • Country: England

    #2
    Is no.1 at TDC?
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    • bilko0795
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Feb 2011
      • 1883
      • Country: Wales

      #3
      All the marks are in line and i have turned the engine a few times to make sure.

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      • UrS4boy
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Feb 2006
        • 11859
        • Country: Canada

        #4
        AAN Engine Manual pdf

        a) your timing marks are off as shown in the photos. Needs more rotation and/or something shifted

        b) your 3256 is 180 degs. out from where it should be. The snub mount is involved.

        From pg. 23/93 of this AAN engine manual pdf:http://s2-audi.co.uk/workshop/aan/aan.pdf

        RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
        94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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        • merlin's S4
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Jan 2005
          • 1539
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          It's been a while since I've done this on mine but am I right in saying that the crank locking tool doesn't actually lock the engine at TDC !?

          You need to use it to loosen the bolt, then rotate to TDC before complete removal of the belt or crank pulley. Then do the opposite before tightening up again.

          PITA I know!!
          '93 S4 Avant now back on the road complete with new shiny go faster bits.

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          • DEREKCO
            S2Forum Addict
            • Feb 2009
            • 435
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Crank Locking Tool

            Hi I am a time served mechanic I agree with Merlin the tool is only I repeat only to lock the crank so you can unlock the crank bolt you then turn it to TDC and mark that position .

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            • UrS4boy
              S2Forum Obsessed
              • Feb 2006
              • 11859
              • Country: Canada

              #7
              AAN timing belt DIY pdf

              Originally posted by merlin's S4
              It's been a while since I've done this on mine but am I right in saying that the crank locking tool doesn't actually lock the engine at TDC !? You need to use it to loosen the bolt, then rotate to TDC before complete removal of the belt or crank pulley. Then do the opposite before tightening up again. PITA I know!!
              You are correct. Good catch. Point 15 in this illustrated AAN timing belt DIY pdf by Fred M. in Canada:

              RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
              94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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              • bilko0795
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Feb 2011
                • 1883
                • Country: Wales

                #8
                Thanks for the advice lads, because id used Kit's home made tool which locks the crank at Tdc it threw me a bit and after paying ÂŁ90 for the tool i thought it was a bit odd knowing that Audi wouldn't make a tool that did not work.

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                • Error404
                  Super Moderator
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 19789
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Just for reference worth noting that the 3B 2084 tool does lock it at TDC. God knows why the 3256 doesn't. I modified my 2084 tool to work on the ABY, just needs the ring extending to engage with the pulley tooth
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                  • Bart76
                    S2Forum Enthusiast
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 117
                    • Country: Netherlands

                    #10
                    What is the number of the aby locking tool?

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                    • bilko0795
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 1883
                      • Country: Wales

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bart76
                      What is the number of the aby locking tool?
                      I just ordered vag tool 3256.

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                      • bilko0795
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 1883
                        • Country: Wales

                        #12
                        Also found that the bolt supplied is to short i used the long bolt plus a couple of nuts and washers from the bottom of the snub mount brkt that holds the A/c compressor to the brkt. worked a treat.

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