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  • Martynf
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jul 2003
    • 1885
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    RS2 injectors

    Can anyone advise me what the max flowrate of the RS2 green injector is please?

    TIA
    Martyn
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  • S2central.net
    Retired OG Mod
    • Jul 2003
    • 16590
    • Country: Northern Ireland

    #2
    Uhhh 600 or 800 - can't remember - Mihnea will know. Where's me fuppin almanac ?


    Paul
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    • audiman
      S2Forum Freak
      • Jul 2003
      • 4827
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      In a technical phrase they flow about sh1tloads per minute. Car does about 10 mpg if using the boost. But could be worse, i could just drill a small hole in the tank and let it flow out.

      I get about 180 miles per tank if I drive it spiritively (?)
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      • Martynf
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Jul 2003
        • 1885
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        Thanks guys!

        Mihnea, can you confirm please?

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        • Mihnea
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Jul 2003
          • 1288
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          #5
          RS2 injectors flow 368cc/min at 3 Bar nominal fuel pressure with no boost/vacuum applied.
          Any increase in fuel pressure makes a flow increase equal to the square root of the fuel pressure increase.


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          • tacq
            S2Forum Buff
            • Aug 2003
            • 30
            • Country: Sweden

            #6
            Flow

            Its always interesting to see how the numbers vary for injectorflow .... Some information I got for the RS2 injectors is 444cc/min @ 4bar, which would result in getting some 355hp out of them (afr @ 11.1 and 85% dutycycle). That information is not confirmed thou.
            I do have confirmed information of 0 280 150 984 : 270g/min @3bar which corresponds very well to Mihnea's value.

            Just to clearify : NewFlow = OldFLow*sqrt(NewPressure/OldPressure)
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            • S2central.net
              Retired OG Mod
              • Jul 2003
              • 16590
              • Country: Northern Ireland

              #7
              @Tom - just remembered that you need a fuel chip tweak young man !

              **** - you shoulda reminded me at the weekend. D'Oh....

              Gimme a shout back and we'll sort something.

              Paul
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              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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              • Mihnea
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                • Jul 2003
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                • Home: Belgium Current: United Kingdom

                #8
                Re: Flow

                @Tacq: absolutely, 270g/min @ 3Bar is what I knew as well for the RS2 injectors.

                Regarding the AFR, what do you think 11:1 AFR is good for??? So far I've tried 11:1 AFR in a few cars and apart from huge black smoke, I couldn't get anything else, total loss of power and so on. IMHO, AFR should be anywhere from 12.7 to 13.5 provided the EGTs after the turbine never get over 840 degree C and this will be the best HP. Some people tend to think the lower the AFR (thus the richer the mixture), the higher the HP, no way it is like this, when an engine is blowing huge black clouds, it is surely losing loads of HP...






                Originally posted by tacq
                Its always interesting to see how the numbers vary for injectorflow .... Some information I got for the RS2 injectors is 444cc/min @ 4bar, which would result in getting some 355hp out of them (afr @ 11.1 and 85% dutycycle). That information is not confirmed thou.
                I do have confirmed information of 0 280 150 984 : 270g/min @3bar which corresponds very well to Mihnea's value.

                Just to clearify : NewFlow = OldFLow*sqrt(NewPressure/OldPressure)
                '98 Silver Grey 2.7T S4, dual 2.75" turbo back exhaust with no cats, FMIC, BIG injectors, 10 Bar motorsport fuel pump, modded RS4 turbos, tubular exhaust manifolds, custom intakes, RS4 MAF, Bilstein PSS9, H&R ARBs, 19" BBS CH, custom remap, 511 BHP/505ft-lbs

                www.MRCTuning.com
                info@MRCTuning.com
                Workshop Directions

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                • tacq
                  S2Forum Buff
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 30
                  • Country: Sweden

                  #9
                  afr

                  Ofcource ideal afr is to keep it around 12.7 in case of getting maximum power but temperature would be of greater concern. I took the 11.1 of afr as an example to show a minimum capacity of those injectors, it was not intended as a recommendation of afr.
                  With afr 12.7 they are capable of 407hp and afr 14.7 471hp.

                  I never logged data this summer in the Ur-Q, but I did have the afrmeeter hooked up for a short while and then I noticed afr' of low 11's. This resulted in approx. 950°C exhaust temperature measured in the turbine itself. This is a mapping that has a tag on it saying Portugal 1986....
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