Cylinder head hole diameter for water manifold?

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  • bn-01-wso
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    • May 2009
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    • Country: Romania

    #1

    Cylinder head hole diameter for water manifold?

    Hi. Does anybody know the diameter of the holes in the cylinder head for the water manifold found on 3B / ABY / ADU / AAN. I need to mount the water manifold on an 7A and i dont know at what dimension to tap the holes. Thanks
  • martinjs
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    • Jul 2003
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    • Country: England

    #2
    Tapped holes are M6

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    • bn-01-wso
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      • May 2009
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      #3
      Originally posted by martinjs
      Tapped holes are M6
      I am not reffering to the bolts but the water holes. See picture
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      • SteveH
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        • Jul 2003
        • 4460
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        I think you got the dimensions for the tapped holes from Martyn, as this is what you asked for in your first post?!

        I've just measued my 3B head and the water rail openings are 20mm.
        91 Modded 3B
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        • bn-01-wso
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          • May 2009
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          #5
          Originally posted by SteveH
          I think you got the dimensions for the tapped holes from Martyn, as this is what you asked for in your first post?!

          I've just measued my 3B head and the water rail openings are 20mm.


          I think i wrote the wrong question. I was reffering to water rail openings if that's what you call them. Thanks alot for the measurement.

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          • Thuppu
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            • Sep 2010
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            #6
            I can arrange a jig if needed.




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            • martinjs
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              • Jul 2003
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              #7
              I have reamed the large holes before 19.85mm and its fine.
              Just put a dab of oil on the seals when installing.

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              • bn-01-wso
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                • May 2009
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                #8
                Originally posted by Thuppu
                I can arrange a jig if needed.






                Thanks alot for the offer Thuppu but i have a friend here locally who can help me out with this. He is also building a Dacia 1300 (renault 12) with 20vt mid engine and he has acces to all the required tools.
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                • grundey
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                  • Aug 2005
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Thuppu
                  I can arrange a jig if needed.
                  A DXF from your jig would be useful
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                  • Thuppu
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                    • Sep 2010
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                    #10
                    Sorry, I don't have any dxf of if. I have typed/edited it by hand to our laser cutter.

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                    • Macchris
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                      • Feb 2015
                      • 429
                      • Country: France

                      #11
                      nice tool Thuppu
                      i meditate in my head to do the full job from a 20V 7A head cylinder to 20VT head cylinder but i dunno how it could be cost... any idea here ?
                      thanks
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                      • pasbogdan
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                        • Sep 2009
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                        #12
                        Today i just finished my 7a.
                        19.76 mm i measured on a spare head.Did mine on the milling machine using tilting orbital tabble(milling bed) to get the manifold face perpendicular to horisontal milling head.Will get you some pics on monday with it finished.
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                        • pasbogdan
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                          • Sep 2009
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                          #13
                          And others:

                          I used drilling starter bit,2 drills and final pass with boring head to get it to 19.76.
                          After that i bolted a manifold on existing middle holes and eye centered 6.5 mm drill into manifold hole,drilled with 5 mm and threaded after that.But without an orbital tilting table will be litle harder to center the face of the manifold perpendicular on horisontal head.If you have milling machine with bigger axle movements it is doable with vertical head.
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                          Last edited by pasbogdan; 16 July 2016, 19:24.

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                          • pasbogdan
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                            • Sep 2009
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                            #14
                            Can give you the coordinates,and refference points when will get the cps plate done.
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                            • bn-01-wso
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                              • May 2009
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                              #15
                              Hi Bogdan. Thanks for the info. My friend just laser cutted a template for the holes and we will be drilling the head in a few days.
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