You can change the style the forum displays by selecting your preferred style at the bottom left of the site.
We have made an enhancement so that old threads should now link from search results to the correct thread. This is not yet in place for single post links
ECU AAN : Difference between 2 Motronic : MTM & Lehmann
ECU AAN : Difference between 2 Motronic : MTM & Lehmann
Well i opening yesterday 2 Motronic i have, the first one here is the MTM 303 Ps & i dont understand why there is an electronic plate under the chip ??? anticopy system from MTM ? :
& the Lehmann one :
Do u know on MTM motro what this electronic plate for ?
Well i opening yesterday 2 Motronic i have, the first one here is the MTM 303 Ps & i dont understand why there is an electronic plate under the chip ??? anticopy system from MTM ? : Do u know on MTM motro what this electronic plate for ? thanks
As stated, it's an encryption or "key" board originally designed so people could not just copy MTM's software upgrades. While MTM still provides these boards with new chip sets, the original encryption has long since been broken and there are many many "MTM" chip sets that are out there as "Clones" without the encryption boards:
The 303 ps version required the use of a modified turbo (I don't know what the modifications were):
RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant
do u know where i can found the 303ps file on the net without using the daughter card ? i have the tl866a, i guess it's enough to do what i want to do (I want to use the MTM303 on my 2 cars so wanna change the Lehmann eprom with another MTM303ps)
thanks a lot
tof
my 02 cents ? yes, more rageous, more power.. BUT the seller told me it's Lehmann but i have no proof.
by the way good news of the day i have broken the leg of...
my bad, so i have tried to soldering, put on the motro and it seems to be ok, however before start the car i'll make a VAGcom... maybe i really need the MTM303 file without use this daughtercard
my bad, so i have tried to soldering, put on the motro and it seems to be ok, however before start the car i'll make a VAGcom... maybe i really need the MTM303 file without use this daughtercard
Do you have the special MTM-upgraded turbo installed? Otherwise you are NOT going to get 303 ps out of the stock K24-7000.
RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant
Do you have the special MTM-upgraded turbo installed? Otherwise you are NOT going to get 303 ps out of the stock K24-7000.
Yeah, you'll need a small 24/6 hybrid, a bit like MTM's own version of the RS2 turbo but not quite as good, well nowhere near as good to be honest. Nothelle also made one much the same which is what my dead 3B was fitted with when I got it.
From the research I did at the time I found out It uses a Porsche 944 K26 cold-side/wheel and and a K24 hot-side machined out to accept a custom K24/6 turbine/shaft.
As Dave says a stock K24 won't work properly with those chips, it'll push the turbo right off the compressor map and blow hot air. It'll be safe running without the N75 plugged in but will kill a stock turbo pretty quickly otherwise and may even damage your engine due to high EGT's.
You could maybe use a K24 7400 but that wouldn't be a perfect match for the software, what turbo are you planning on using with those chips?
Genuine MTM chips normally have a little hand written label on them with the details done in quite a distinctive style of writing, the latest I've seen with that hand were a set 303 set done in 1999 for an S4. I guess they swapped to printed stickers at some point, they always use a scrambler board though, where did you get them?
Sorry to hear you've broken your leg.
I have the parts in stock it build a replica of the MTM unit if your interested.
Last edited by K Simmonds; 21 November 2016, 01:08.
1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
1994 MTM RS2.
1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
2000 B5 TQS.
Nope i have stock turbo but i know i haven't 303 hp , i guess more or less 280
I have MRC chip on another Motronic on the S4 i rebuild (ADU engine) dyno says 352 hp before accident, i hope the MRC chip has no daughter board too like the picture on my post. On my GTQ race track future, i'll go for a RS2 program, so i hope i can copy the MRC one
However i found this chip on ebay for stock Turbo & injectors, it seems lot of people are happy with it :
Nope i have stock turbo but i know i haven't 303 hp , i guess more or less 280
I have MRC chip on another Motronic on the S4 i rebuild (ADU engine) dyno says 352 hp before accident, i hope the MRC chip has no daughter board too like the picture on my post. On my GTQ race track future, i'll go for a RS2 program, so i hope i can copy the MRC one
However i found this chip on ebay for stock Turbo & injectors, it seems lot of people are happy with it :
We process personal data about users of our site, through the use of cookies and other technologies, to deliver our services, personalize advertising, and to analyze site activity. We may share certain information about our users with our advertising and analytics partners. For additional details, refer to our Privacy Policy.
By clicking "I AGREE" below, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our personal data processing and cookie practices as described therein. You also acknowledge that this forum may be hosted outside your country and you consent to the collection, storage, and processing of your data in the country where this forum is hosted.
thanks
, i guess more or less 280
Comment