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  • 3B vs ABY - coolant hose differences?

    Been searching but not found definitive answers...

    What are the exact differences between 3B and ABY coolant hoses - I mean full standard set...?

    I know that the hose on the rear of the block is 3mm larger diameter on the ABY... what else? (I realise ADU has slightly different routing)

    The reason for the question, I want to buy a set of Roose Motorsport hoses, but their kits have a different number of hoses specified for 3B vs ABY (8 for 3B vs 10 for ABY)

    If the 3mm difference to the block is the only difference, I will buy the ABY kit and a larger adaptor for fitting it (or just tighten the clamp more...)

    FYI, currently have Samcos fitted...
    Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird Turbo....undergoing major changes.....
    S2 Coupe... bit easier off the line...
    '03 ZX12-R daily hack.... lots of nice bolt ons...

  • #2
    The top hose with the branch off for the after-run pump is different also
    Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
    Indigo ABY coupé
    Imola B6 S4 Avant

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Error404 View Post
      The top hose with the branch off for the after-run pump is different also
      Hmmm... but, will it physically fit, (ie different shape or routing) or is the diameter different?
      Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird Turbo....undergoing major changes.....
      S2 Coupe... bit easier off the line...
      '03 ZX12-R daily hack.... lots of nice bolt ons...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by LHD_Kid View Post
        Hmmm... but, will it physically fit, (ie different shape or routing) or is the diameter different?
        Anyone any opinions? Can I fit an ABY set to my 3B?
        Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird Turbo....undergoing major changes.....
        S2 Coupe... bit easier off the line...
        '03 ZX12-R daily hack.... lots of nice bolt ons...

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        • #5
          Yes you can, just need to be careful of the brake lines coming off the ABS pump - I used an ABY kit on my conversion. I just tried to find pics of it but can't really see properly - I just took my rad out of the car so can't take you a pic either!
          You just need to buy an ABY/AAN coolant boss for the block
          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
          Indigo ABY coupé
          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Error404 View Post
            Yes you can, just need to be careful of the brake lines coming off the ABS pump - I used an ABY kit on my conversion. I just tried to find pics of it but can't really see properly - I just took my rad out of the car so can't take you a pic either!
            You just need to buy an ABY/AAN coolant boss for the block
            Perfect, thanks Alex...

            Brake lines are slightly re-routed anyway due to the vacuum conversion...

            Now just need to find a boss....

            Cheers
            Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird Turbo....undergoing major changes.....
            S2 Coupe... bit easier off the line...
            '03 ZX12-R daily hack.... lots of nice bolt ons...

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            • #7
              Rusty was making some very nice aluminium pieces a few years back, maybe he still has some?
              Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
              Indigo ABY coupé
              Imola B6 S4 Avant

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              • #8
                I bought one of the two 3B water hose kits (the one without the big top rad hose) and it came with a hose I can't find a location for on my motor
                91 Modded 3B
                14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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                • #9
                  I only have 3B items now. Please try of other places sell them now.
                  Cheers'en, AndyC
                  1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rusty View Post
                    I only have 3B items now. Please try of other places sell them now.
                    Thanks Rusty - I have one of your excellent 3B items (wish I'd accidentally purchased an ABY one now... )

                    I've been looking, Thuppu doesn't make them, Albert neither, although it may be possible in the future...

                    If anyone has a lead on a decent upgraded item (don't really want OE plastic or OE metal due to cracking or rusting in tbe long term future)

                    Thanks everyone 😎

                    Edit: found a couple of pictures showing 22mm block outlet to heater fitting, as made by Rusty... ABY version is 25mm...
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                    Last edited by LHD_Kid; 9 December 2016, 17:31.
                    Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird Turbo....undergoing major changes.....
                    S2 Coupe... bit easier off the line...
                    '03 ZX12-R daily hack.... lots of nice bolt ons...

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                    • #11
                      I've bought mounts from these folk via e-Bay. They list something which might work for you.

                      NCTS

                      http://yt-motorsport.eu/shop/water-flange/
                      91 Modded 3B
                      14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SteveH View Post
                        I've bought mounts from these folk via e-Bay. They list something which might work for you.

                        NCTS

                        http://yt-motorsport.eu/shop/water-flange/
                        Cheers Steve...

                        Ordered

                        Edit: Roose hoses also ordered
                        Last edited by LHD_Kid; 9 December 2016, 13:33.
                        Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird Turbo....undergoing major changes.....
                        S2 Coupe... bit easier off the line...
                        '03 ZX12-R daily hack.... lots of nice bolt ons...

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