Cold start rattle ?

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  • s2dk
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jul 2016
    • 507
    • Country: Denmark

    #1

    Cold start rattle ?

    Hello

    I have noticed that my s2 engine rattles a bit when cold started I would describe it as chaim rattle But on our engine there is No tentioner on the chain ?
    It a aby engine
    The little valve in the block has been changed
    Could it be skifter That runs out of Oil in the Night ?
    Its not every time it cold start But Maybe 8/10 times

    Thx
  • hunker7
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    • Mar 2014
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    • Home: Latvia Current: United Kingdom

    #2
    Interested to hear what people say, I have the same problem on my AAN. Doesn't happen always though.
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    • quattro-nick
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Sep 2012
      • 1746
      • Country: Belgium

      #3
      probably a bad hydraulic valve tappet
      enough oil on the engine? what type of oil do u use?
      u can see when you start the engine that the noise disappears when your oil pressure gauge goes up.......
      also when the timingbelt is too loose you can get a rattle if the belt comes against the cover
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      • vag_noob
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        • Nov 2010
        • 72
        • Country: New Zealand

        #4
        too thick oil can cause this

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        • squarebare
          S2Forum Buff
          • Sep 2013
          • 33
          • Home: Ireland Current: Australia

          #5
          My AAN did this when I bought it, changed the oil and filter twice within. 5k as the service history had missed a couple of services, rattle hasn't returned.

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          • s2dk
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Jul 2016
            • 507
            • Country: Denmark

            #6
            Im running 5w40 Miller cfs nt
            Oil is between Half and full
            My thought was on lifters to
            Timing belt should be tight enoungh its not that long a go it was changed and it dosent Sounds like a slapping belt

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            • s2dk
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Jul 2016
              • 507
              • Country: Denmark

              #7
              I have changed Oil 4 times within 10000 km. And i have trues 10w50 5w40 in different brands

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              • s2dk
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Jul 2016
                • 507
                • Country: Denmark

                #8
                And Allso a belladd oil cleaning stuff

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                • hunker7
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                  • Mar 2014
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                  #9
                  I run 5w40 Castrol. I get tappet noise every morning which is more like knocking but chain rattling noise only occasionally? It's there for about 5-10 seconds and then dissapears. I have also replaced the cam chain and it ain't loose or anything.
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                  • s2dk
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                    • Jul 2016
                    • 507
                    • Country: Denmark

                    #10
                    I Will change the lifters But that Will be at the same time i split the engine ��

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                    • quattro-nick
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 1746
                      • Country: Belgium

                      #11
                      i believe that or engine needs 10w40 half synthetic oil,i find 5w40 a bit thin
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                      TWINCHARGED power,zero lag
                      AEM W/M injection

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                      • hunker7
                        S2Forum Possessed
                        • Mar 2014
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                        • Home: Latvia Current: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Originally posted by quattro-nick
                        i believe that or engine needs 10w40 half synthetic oil,i find 5w40 a bit thin
                        Interesting. I asked oilman and he suggested 5w40, might try 10w40 next time round.
                        '93 Audi 100 Avant - R.I.P
                        '92 Audi UrS4 Avant - SOLD
                        '93 Audi UrS4 Avant
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                        • s2dk
                          S2Forum Maniac
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 507
                          • Country: Denmark

                          #13
                          It did not change anything running a 10w50

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                          • RichLV
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                            • Mar 2015
                            • 872
                            • Country: Latvia

                            #14
                            I have no side engine noises from mine at all since the rebuild. I'm on 5w40 8100 X-Cess Motul.

                            I know that chain can rattle if it has stretched too much. Tappet noise is very different from chain rattle. You should be able to make a distinction between those.

                            I'd get the cam cover off and check what's the play in the upper side of the chain between cams.

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                            • mike74
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                              • Apr 2014
                              • 615
                              • Country: Scotland

                              #15
                              Could it be the plastic splash guard inside the cam cover (the bit you can just see inside oil filler) come loose and rattling against a cam?

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