Sunroof Drain locations and hints on clearing them

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  • irishs2
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Apr 2009
    • 2455
    • Country: Ireland

    #16
    They both seem odd, having the rear drain over a vent seems an odd choice and having it hidden seem equally odd.
    Eric

    95 S2 Avant under rebuild.

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    • UrS4boy
      S2Forum Obsessed
      • Feb 2006
      • 11859
      • Country: Canada

      #17
      Originally posted by irishs2
      They both seem odd, having the rear drain over a vent seems an odd choice and having it hidden seem equally odd.
      Can't argue with that...but they did get it right(er) with the C4 avant's rear sunroof drains:

      RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
      94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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      • Alistair E
        S2Forum Addict
        • Jul 2003
        • 479

        #18
        Thanks gents. That gives me a couple of places to start looking. I'll probably wait til the weekend, but I'll post the results on here once I've investigated further.

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        • Alistair E
          S2Forum Addict
          • Jul 2003
          • 479

          #19
          Right, Had a proper look at the drains on Saturday. Hopefully you can see the location from the photos. It is just behind the rear door, behind the arch cove. Bit of a pig to get at and the age of the plastic doesn't help. Cracked a couple bit when I was trying to bend it back out of the way.

          The drain pipe had, over time, flattened at the end which had caused the blockage. As soon as I opened the end with a screwdriver the water drained from the tube. I've now pushed a short length of hard plastic tube in the end to keep it open. Hopefully that will sort it. Just got the other side to do.
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          • UrS4boy
            S2Forum Obsessed
            • Feb 2006
            • 11859
            • Country: Canada

            #20
            Alistair: I am happy that you found the location and cleared the drain.

            I am disappointed that your photos are so so tiny that I can't see anything. Could you repost with photos that are at least 800 x 600 pixels so we can see what you saw?

            Thanks.
            RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
            94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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            • Alistair E
              S2Forum Addict
              • Jul 2003
              • 479

              #21
              Apologies for the photo size. Wasn't sure what the max file size was and I was in a bit of a rush. Hopefully these are a bit better
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              • UrS4boy
                S2Forum Obsessed
                • Feb 2006
                • 11859
                • Country: Canada

                #22
                Originally posted by Alistair E
                Apologies for the photo size. Wasn't sure what the max file size was and I was in a bit of a rush. Hopefully these are a bit better
                Yup. Those are good (enough). Wow. Not the best design (location). Very difficult to access if they need to be cleaned from the discharge end.
                RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                • saltinot
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • May 2004
                  • 1946

                  #23
                  In the Netherlands last week and had the chance, thanks to Herman, to search for the 80 avant drain tube inside the car.......and there you are!

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                  • UrS4boy
                    S2Forum Obsessed
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 11859
                    • Country: Canada

                    #24
                    Originally posted by saltinot
                    In the Netherlands last week and had the chance, thanks to Herman, to search for the 80 avant drain tube inside the car.......and there you are!
                    Tom: So that is in the "C" pillar? Any photos of the point of exit by the wheel well?
                    RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                    94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                    • saltinot
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • May 2004
                      • 1946

                      #25
                      yes, C-pillar. I'll grab a shot of mine in the wheel arch too. Mines is a no sunroof car so I'm curious what is there. Just a plug probably.

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                      • sailaz
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 647
                        • Country: United Nations

                        #26
                        I do have exsactly the same issue on my B4 Avant:

                        Originally posted by sps-si
                        after rain brake hard for the first time and i get a lap full of water!
                        All drain pipes are changed into brand new.
                        I assume that in my case this ''drip tray'' at the back of sliding mechanism can't be the reason as I get water only when I brake ? ?

                        Originally posted by newsh
                        A really important part in this scenario is the "drip tray" part 14/15 in the diagram above. This sits underneath the rear of the sliding panel, catches water dripping through and directs it into the cassette base so it can get to the drain tubes. This "tray" (it's actually like a long narrow bridge) is clipped to the back of the sliding mechanism and travels back out of the way when the roof is open. It can become disconnected from the sliding sunroof panel and get left down at the back of the cassette at which point you get a very wet headlining. If you move the sunroof into tilt position you can see if it is present and correct.
                        Can't check the ''tray'' now, but I have headlining removed and I wasn't able to locate through were water is leaking...

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                        • PaulJ
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                          • Jun 2008
                          • 253
                          • Country: Scotland

                          #27
                          Hi
                          Check that the cassette is sealed round the tubes carrying the drive cables for the roof mechanism as mine was exactly the same, found to be corroded and water could easily pass through to roof lining side
                          I overhauled whole mechanism and sealed with butyl tape, same stuff as back lights, hopefully sorted out not

                          Paul
                          1995 RS2 Nogaro
                          1971 Lotus Elan Sprint
                          1974 Lotus Elan+2S 130/5

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                          • nip
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 1786
                            • Home: United Kingdom Current: Abu Dhabi

                            #28
                            I had the same problem it was the drip tray had disconnected, all I did was eased the headlining down then reconnect it

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                            • sailaz
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 647
                              • Country: United Nations

                              #29
                              Originally posted by newsh
                              A really important part in this scenario is the "drip tray" part 14/15 in the diagram above. This sits underneath the rear of the sliding panel, catches water dripping through and directs it into the cassette base so it can get to the drain tubes. This "tray" (it's actually like a long narrow bridge) is clipped to the back of the sliding mechanism and travels back out of the way when the roof is open. It can become disconnected from the sliding sunroof panel and get left down at the back of the cassette at which point you get a very wet headlining. If you move the sunroof into tilt position you can see if it is present and correct.
                              If I understand correctly on B4 Avant it will be part 21/23 in the diagram ?

                              Originally posted by nip
                              I had the same problem it was the drip tray had disconnected, all I did was eased the headlining down then reconnect it
                              you mean the same part no.23 ? can't find drip tray in the diagram, they call this part 'water channel' ......
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                              • sailaz
                                S2Forum Maniac
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 647
                                • Country: United Nations

                                #30
                                Originally posted by PaulJ
                                Check that the cassette is sealed round the tubes carrying the drive cables for the roof mechanism as mine was exactly the same, found to be corroded and water could easily pass through to roof lining side
                                didn't observe any corrosion, but thanks for advice, will double check it

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