Could 2,5"/3" exhaust system be quiet?

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  • lynx
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Jan 2005
    • 125
    • Country: Estonia

    #1

    Could 2,5"/3" exhaust system be quiet?

    Hi

    I tested today car without exhaust system (only downpipe connected. I' m using k26/t04e hybid and rs2 em). There was a little different with 3 and up gear. Not too strong differend, but I could feel it.

    Now I' m thinkig maybe to replace original exhaust system (cat' s are gone for a long time allready), but I' d like to have silent car. I have owned one car with "sport exhaust system" and . . I don' t want it again.

    So, less word, more actions . . Could 2,5" or 3" exhaust system be quiet?

    with best regards,
  • rotoryboy
    S2Forum Possessed
    • May 2004
    • 3281
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    I run a 3" system from the downpipe with 1 silencer. Dont get me wrong its not loud but you know its coming. You could have another silencer in the middle section to just take the edge off
    Mark

    Race Clio RS197

    S2 Coupe ABY (Green) - RIP
    S2 Coupe ABY (Blue) - Sold

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    • Greg_S
      Administrator
      • Jul 2003
      • 12431
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      Lynx.

      I have a 3" turbo back system fitted with two silencers. on tickover and cruising around its fairly quiet. but gets louder when you are on boost.

      only problem is if you are cruising at 70 its a bit boomy but get to 80 and it quietens down again
      Greg

      S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

      '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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      • WabTheKing
        S2Forum Fiend
        • May 2004
        • 2567
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        if you have a single small diameter tail pipe it seems to make it quiet,

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        • S2 Ant
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Jul 2003
          • 3682
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          I think Gregs sounds nice, has a good noise to it but isnt too intrusive, but then want i consider to be quiet and a smooth ride, others consider to be loud and harsh, so hard to answer really
          Ant

          2007 Mk5 Golf GTi, 3 door, DSG, REVO Stg 2 and other goodies
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          • Sweeper
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Jul 2003
            • 1317
            • Country: Latvia

            #6
            I had 2(two) sport muflers in the row and it sounded like stock ! With all the 3" all the way.

            Now i have none and it's sounds like a bike, gonna put atleast one mufler tomorrow.
            Vadim.

            New engine (mechanical PKM head) , Alcon 332mm brakes , Pauter rods , Mahle pistons, GT30R , kw v2 sucpension , new exhaust. 608HP. For SALE !

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            • Ski
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Jan 2004
              • 2591
              • Home: Poland Current: United Kingdom

              #7
              I have a 2.5 powerflow with a special s2 box at end. its VERY quiet, just like stock
              ABY Coupe
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              • Faheemo
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Feb 2005
                • 544
                • Country: South Africa

                #8
                Cheapo move is to remove everything but the back box.
                Replace all others with straight tru piping...

                Cheapo but works gr8 .. Sounds gr8 too.
                Not loud at all.

                S2 Coupe fully built.
                10.9 1/4mile 0-100 in 3.5secs
                Precision 6262 turbo
                The Green Monster

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                • HPmuirt
                  S2Forum April Fool
                  • Apr 2005
                  • 3014
                  • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                  #9
                  What is the diameter of the standard system and what is the performance/noise difference between the 2.5" and 3" systems?

                  I plan to get a 280BHP homefry when my Porsche brakes are on and had assumed that my stock pipes would be OK for this. I was also assuming that moving up to 2.5 or 3 might give me a few (but just a few) more horses, particularly if I use an RS2 airbox?

                  Final question, If required, where can I get an RS2 airbox?

                  Cheers n

                  Si
                  95 ABY S2 Coupe - Ragusa Green
                  Subtle mods here and there


                  2011 A5 3.0 TDi - Lava Grey
                  With every option available (except a towball)

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                  • lynx
                    S2Forum Enthusiast
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 125
                    • Country: Estonia

                    #10
                    thanks guys

                    Looks like the "noise level" is different for many people.
                    Anyway, I tooked my car to the service . . . the middle part of exhaust system is complicated (even when cats removed) and the last silencer.

                    I know, without exhaust system I have boost difference about 0,4bar. When I tried without exhaust system I was getting 0,4bar more overboost. Looks like exhaust system is handycap.

                    I told to the service that i want 3" exhaust system, the looked my car and sayd to me . . . impossibe . . . up to the back axle, ther' s no room for 3".

                    Anyway, at the monent I thinking if I let to do middle part new and last silencer (free flow), could I drive at the highway quietly. If that could be done . . . fine, I' ll do it, but unfortunately, nobody can' t tell my that before work has done. Danm, looks like I have to do it and find out that myself.

                    wth best regards,

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                    • porkkis
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 1994
                      • Country: Finland

                      #11
                      Material affects the noise also. Stainless tends to be more boomy than regular. Lasts longer of course but tends to be louder too.
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                      • Greg_S
                        Administrator
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 12431
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        a 3" system is possible, http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3051

                        Mine could have been fitted slightly better in places if the company had taken their time a little more. The section over rear axle needs moving back an inch and the downpipe needs a litle adjustment and the joint between front and rear section could have been placed about 1 inch further forward to give better clearance
                        Greg

                        S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

                        '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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                        • lynx
                          S2Forum Enthusiast
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 125
                          • Country: Estonia

                          #13
                          I have done it . . .

                          I let the last silencer replaced, with stainless. One 2,5" inlet and 2x2,5" out.
                          First I was scared . . . maybe to load, but gues what. It' s more quiet even, that I was thought. Yes, it' s more noisy that original, but not so much . . . with 110km/h, very quiet (but not like original).

                          1000-1600/1700rpm, it' s more . . . noisy, but that' s ok, and I even like it.
                          Now, someday I will let replace the middle section.

                          but, hey . . . one picture can say more that 1000 words


                          Last edited by lynx; 14 July 2005, 20:48.

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                          • sailaz
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 647
                            • Country: United Nations

                            #14
                            interesting old thread .... 3'' exhaust... I had straight one from downpipe with just one Magnaflow 12249 muffler at the end:
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                            ... and I ended up with even mo louder exhaust , actually it sounds more nicely but way too loud .

                            Any advices for 3'' quiet (straight without cats) exhaust setup would be appreciated

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                            • Thuppu
                              S2Forum Freak
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 4115
                              • Country: Finland

                              #15
                              I just had my 80 exhaust loudness measured at MOT. 2.5" exhaust with a 200cell cat and one big muffler gave 96dB(@4krpm). Quite a suprise as my UrS4 gave 99dB at trackday noise measuring, and it sounds a LOT louder with 3.5" exhaust. I'll guess the 3dB will make a difference.

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