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  • Pisobiker
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jul 2003
    • 1175
    • Country: Finland

    #1

    Supersprint exhaust system

    Thanks to Rafael (The_Spanish) who asked me about Supersprint systems, I discovered that this very well known Italian Company builds a good looking 70mm turbo back SS system for S2 and RS2 (I didn't know they did for our cars).
    Don't know the price, Rafael was going to find out.

    here is the site:

    SuperSprint


    Apart from the exhaust itself, what I found interesting is the rolling road charts they show for the S2 (which, looking expecially at the torque values, I guess is a ABY):

    Original:

    239 hp @ 6350 rpm
    353.5 Nm @ 2820 rpm

    With Supersprint exhaust (turbo back 70mm)

    250 hp @ 5760
    403.5 Nm @ 2590 rpm


    following is the graph:

    note that test was done in 3th gear for sure (end of test speed ~165 Km/h @ redline) and total mechanical drag (but of course not the aerodynamical one) is ~50-55 KW = ~ 70-75 hp.

    Found this very interesting so I wanted to share


    Marco
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  • Dr H
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jul 2003
    • 1175
    • Country: England

    #2
    They seem to list them as for the Sedan and Avant but not the Coupe? AFAIK the sedan and avant have the same exhauts but the coupe is different after the cats.

    Ex 1994 Avant - now driving a Lotus 340r

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    • Markus
      S2Forum Enthusiast
      • Aug 2003
      • 184
      • Country: Finland

      #3
      The first S2 I ever drove was a '94 Avant with a full Supersprint turbo-back system with a hi-flow cat. The owner claimed that it was a custom job by Supersprint, since they didn't list any system for the S2 back then. Maybe they used his car to design the system Marco referred to?

      If I remember correctly he said it was 80 mm, but don't know if it was just the downpipe. I didn't have a very close look at the exhaust, but it seemed to be well built. It was perhaps a bit on the loud side, making highway driving a bit tiring, but all in all a very impressive system. However at the prices we're talking about, it should be...

      764021 (pipe kit with cat) + 764003 (centre exhaust) + 764006 (rear exhaust) = list price approx. 3350 eur from a dealer here in Finland. Phew...

      PS. Don't know if they supply full turbo-back systems for the S2, but one interesting exhaust option is bn-pipes.
      Markus

      '94 Kristallsilber-metallic S2 Avant.

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      • Pisobiker
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Jul 2003
        • 1175
        • Country: Finland

        #4
        Originally posted by Markus

        ......
        I didn't have a very close look at the exhaust, but it seemed to be well built. It was perhaps a bit on the loud side, making highway driving a bit tiring, but all in all a very impressive system. However at the prices we're talking about, it should be...

        764021 (pipe kit with cat) + 764003 (centre exhaust) + 764006 (rear exhaust) = list price approx. 3350 eur from a dealer here in Finland. Phew...


        :eek2: seems a little too expensive to me, even for a very well done and high performance system.
        Fortunatly for me I built my own 3" SS turbo back system spending much less than that.

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        • The Spanish
          S2Forum Maniac
          • Nov 2003
          • 719

          #5
          I will have a price for the 70mm downpipe with cat 764021 by tomorrow because the spanish distributor doesn't list any car previous to an A3 in their catologue
          The downpipe is the only usuable part on the Coupe, the rest must be a custom job but I find the downpipe would be the most difficult part to customize, the rest I am thinking would be a straight 70mm pipe into a 70mm modified milltek exhaust muffler.

          Cheers,

          Rafael

          P.S. 70mm aprox. 2.76 inches
          94' RS2 Coupe TT (Twin Torsen )

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          • The Spanish
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Nov 2003
            • 719

            #6
            Just looked at the BN pipes web page and they do have a 70mm pipe back box with twin 2x76mm exits so one less thing to adapt.

            Just receive a call while writing this post, the price I have been given for a 70mm downpipe with a metallic cat is 1149 Euros discount and VAT included. A tad on the expensive side I think.

            Cheers,
            Rafael
            94' RS2 Coupe TT (Twin Torsen )

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            • s2avant
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Jul 2003
              • 2426

              #7
              I found the price for the non-cat downpipe - 564 euros (about £400!!) which is a tad steep for a simple tube.

              Ben
              the best intentions are fraught with disappointment - gil grissom

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              1994 ABY Avant - it's getting there

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              • Dutch_RsBlueS2
                S2Forum Addict
                • Sep 2003
                • 285
                • Country: Netherlands

                #8
                I can make that for less then halve the money

                I`m currently busy with making my own exhaust system out of SS. And also i`m making my own high flow mufflers out of SS. I`m doing this together with Jeffer, done some prepperation today. Made some perforated 3" tubes out of perforated SS plates.

                The whole system is gonna be 3"

                But €5xx is ****** lot of money for a downpipe, those people who sell it will laugh there asses off

                Cees

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                • Josh-stateside
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 741
                  • Country: United States

                  #9
                  I happen to have a 2 and 1/4 supersprint system. They made this setup for the 20v 7a motor.


                  With RS2 setup will this be to restrictive? or will I be ok?

                  THanks
                  Josh
                  I chose not to choose life: I chose something else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who need reasons when you've got quattro?

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                  • Pisobiker
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 1175
                    • Country: Finland

                    #10
                    Josh, I don't remember exactly diameter of OEM S2 single pipe, but I'm afraid 2-1/4 is in the "small" range of dimensions.
                    Take also into account that NA engines tend to have smaller diameter ducts to maximize pressure pulses energy, while forced induction engines and turbocharged ones particularly need a high flow exhaust to maximize turbine efficiency.


                    Marco

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                    • Josh-stateside
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 741
                      • Country: United States

                      #11
                      I figure that was the case.

                      I will just have to sell it to someone here in the states.
                      Custom 2-1/2 or 3inch Seemingly will be have to be made.

                      Thanks
                      Josh
                      I chose not to choose life: I chose something else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who need reasons when you've got quattro?

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                      • Pisobiker
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 1175
                        • Country: Finland

                        #12
                        Josh, just take into account Supersprint does a 2-3/4 system for the stock RS2 so if I was you, having to build a custom one, I would definitly go to 3", allowing for some higher hp outputs if needed in the future.

                        Marco

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                        • Jamo
                          Retired OG Mod
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 21750
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          I've been doing some digging on the supersprint systems as i'm after a 2.75" system.

                          Ideally i'd like to get my hands on an RS2 downpipe (hello Bry!!!!!!!!!!!!!) but if not the supersprint downpipe is available for £226.87 without Cat (would then get a sports cat put in)

                          I think thats not a bad price for a downpipe?

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                          • Rusty
                            Super Moderator
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 18953
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Am I correct in thinking that the Rs2 DP is a direct replacement but 2.75" rather than 2.5"?
                            Cheers'en, AndyC
                            1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                            • s2driveruk
                              Super Moderator
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 12696
                              • Country: England

                              #15
                              i'd like to remove my dual 3b cats and replace with just a single hi-flow sports cat - any recommendations.....? Car is the wrong side of the cat issue on MOT and I can't be ar*ed to replace each year.

                              Cheers
                              sigpic

                              1992 3b S2 Coupe

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