symptoms of heat soak?

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  • stevieyid
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Apr 2005
    • 2251
    • Country: England

    #1

    symptoms of heat soak?

    Hi can someone tell me what would happen at WOT of u were experiencing heat soak. As in my previous thread i have fitted a apexi cone filter with a samco u bend (thanks pastures) but i need to fit a heat shield and cold air feed. But tonight a couple of times when i opened it up mainly in sixth it seemed to misfire and stutter. I looked at the boost gauge while it done this. It went from 15psi stuttered down to about 13psi then it stuttered up to about 15 psi then onto 18psi at which point i eased off. Could heat soak cause this or do u think something else? Thanks for your help
    3'' Longlife Exhaust, Koni Adjustables, H&R Springs, Full RS2 Setup with Mr Nugents RS2 Chips (just need the RS2 Airbox)
  • s2driveruk
    Super Moderator
    • Jul 2003
    • 12696
    • Country: England

    #2
    sounds much more like an air leak to me..... Usually have more probs with heat soak if its been sitting for a while, just feels sluggish for a few seconds until you start to get positive airflow (cooler air) running into the engine bay. In sixth I'd say you already had that
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    • S2central.net
      Retired OG Mod
      • Jul 2003
      • 16590
      • Country: Northern Ireland

      #3
      Air leak or coilpack/HT problem more likely... Heatsoak as David says feels more like general sluggishness as the ignition is less advanced with very hot intake air temps.
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      • stevieyid
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Apr 2005
        • 2251
        • Country: England

        #4
        I take it from air leak u mean boost leak? If i was to have a boost leak how would the boost gauge react? Thanks again
        3'' Longlife Exhaust, Koni Adjustables, H&R Springs, Full RS2 Setup with Mr Nugents RS2 Chips (just need the RS2 Airbox)

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        • AAH!
          S2Forum Addict
          • Jun 2004
          • 497
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          #5
          An air leak can mean un-metered air (by the MAF) getting into the system after the MAF and before the turbo.
          formally RS2 +

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          • stevieyid
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Apr 2005
            • 2251
            • Country: England

            #6
            This problem has returned or probably never gone away. I have had a health check by MRC and they also looked at the coils which were fine. That showed up no leaks of any kind. Today though after trying to get to Bluewater ans sitting in the traffic for an hour or so the car did feel sluggish and when i gave it WOT it spluttered then it will pick then splutter etc. That sounds to me as though it heats soak according to s2driveruk post. What do u think? Will this be damaging my engine this hot air? Thanks
            3'' Longlife Exhaust, Koni Adjustables, H&R Springs, Full RS2 Setup with Mr Nugents RS2 Chips (just need the RS2 Airbox)

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            • stevieyid
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Apr 2005
              • 2251
              • Country: England

              #7
              Its still happening, but it does not happen all the time. Im going to put my airbox back on. It seems to happen more now the weather has got a bit warmer on long trips and after traffic. Could high intake temps cause a small jolt or hesiatation? It does not seem to pull like it used to. What do u think?
              3'' Longlife Exhaust, Koni Adjustables, H&R Springs, Full RS2 Setup with Mr Nugents RS2 Chips (just need the RS2 Airbox)

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              • s2driveruk
                Super Moderator
                • Jul 2003
                • 12696
                • Country: England

                #8
                definately.....once hot and stationary you will get a quick buildup of heat under the bonnet. I doubt it will cause any probs with the engine, just as the intake air heats up IIRC there is a sensor on the inlet manifold which retards ignition to protect it. Getting as cool a charge as possible is the best way to gain performance (just like running it on a cool misty morning). If you are running a cone or similar then you need to separate it from the heat of the exhaust manifold and ensure its fed cool air from the front of the car (maybe via some ducting). I'm about to use a brake duct with two cold feed pipes to the K&N i run in an attempt to give it more cool air.

                You could also search for bacofoil as this was a good, cheap mod
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                • Fat Audi 80
                  Super Moderator
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 10547
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  Check out the Mods on Charlies's MTM RS2 set up for a good sheilding solution here: http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthr...hlight=RS2+MTM

                  Personally I don't think a cone filter is really worth the effort for the potential small gains (5 - 10 BHP) vs loss of hot weather performance, lower filtration and lack of OEM look!

                  That's just my 2p's worth...

                  Cheers,

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                  • Jamo
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 21750
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Fat Audi 80
                    Check out the Mods on Charlies's MTM RS2 set up for a good sheilding solution here: http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthr...hlight=RS2+MTM

                    Personally I don't think a cone filter is really worth the effort for the potential small gains (5 - 10 BHP) vs loss of hot weather performance, lower filtration and lack of OEM look!

                    That's just my 2p's worth...

                    Cheers,

                    Steve.
                    RS2 airbox, you know it makes sense

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                    • Fat Audi 80
                      Super Moderator
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10547
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      Precisely OEM+
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                      • Jamo
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 21750
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        LOL your not still peddling that OEM+ line, we're not falling for it

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                        • s2driveruk
                          Super Moderator
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 12696
                          • Country: England

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Fat Audi 80
                          Check out the Mods on Charlies's MTM RS2 set up for a good sheilding solution here: http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthr...hlight=RS2+MTM

                          Personally I don't think a cone filter is really worth the effort for the potential small gains (5 - 10 BHP) vs loss of hot weather performance, lower filtration and lack of OEM look!

                          That's just my 2p's worth...

                          Cheers,

                          Steve.
                          LOL that 5-10bhp would have seen you loose that 3.0 TDI
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                          • Fat Audi 80
                            Super Moderator
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 10547
                            • Country: England

                            #14
                            Very good!
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                            • Fat Audi 80
                              Super Moderator
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10547
                              • Country: England

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jamo
                              LOL your not still peddling that OEM+ line, we're not falling for it
                              Yep
                              The Perfectionist
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