s2 iduction

[Audibits]

are there any s2 induction kits available for the 3b just learning about the turbo engine so any advice would be apprecited

[Acidburn]

Dahlback do a kit if I remember but its expensive.
What most people do is buy a decent size air filter cone and make a adapter up (normally some tubing) to mate this to the MAF. Remember if you do this option to put some heat shielding around it like the box has. There are pictures/posts on here about it in the search function.

Other option is a replacement panel filter. I know K&N do one.

[pastures16]

are there any s2 induction kits available for the 3b just learning about the turbo engine so any advice would be apprecited

hi mike how long has it taken you to find
the boost ive a Dahlback pipe but want to go back standared aby side

[Acidburn]

IIRC the dahlback kit from what I saw was just an air filter and piping with some heat shielding is that correct?

[ericd]

IIRC the dahlback kit from what I saw was just an air filter and piping with some heat shielding is that correct?

Heat sheld, custom pipe/bracket and usually a k&n xflow filter

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[Robatron]

How much is the dahlback kit?

[dan_b]

Expensive, something like £200 or there abouts, which is why I never bought it...

[Robatron]

That is alot of money...

[Acidburn]

If you can get the bit of pipe you could make this for under 50 ish quid if you source the bits yourself.

Silicone piping is about 14 quid for 2 bits, cone filter depending what you go for £25 quid ebay (I personally had a ram air filter, sounded lovely.
Clips £3 ish? (not sure how much they are, my filter came with them)
Heat shield, depends what you go for.

[ericd]

If you can get the bit of pipe you could make this for under 50 ish quid if you source the bits yourself.

Silicone piping is about 14 quid for 2 bits, cone filter depending what you go for £25 quid ebay (I personally had a ram air filter, sounded lovely.
Clips £3 ish? (not sure how much they are, my filter came with them)
Heat shield, depends what you go for.

I posted up similar dimensions for the h/shield in another thread not too long ago if you wanna go down the road of making it, there's a few other solutions lying around in here too.

just be aware that some of the filters on the bay, may well end up being a restriction in most setups, if they don't state what output they're capable of working with (in bhp) stay clear, go for usual/well known names...

HTH

[Acidburn]

Yeah think when I did my 20v quattro sport I had a lovely Ramair filter, huge thing it was but apart from the sound which was amazing was not sure if i lost anything in terms of power/torque.

[HPmuirt]

I still do not see the point of induction kits for the S2 unless you want a chavy noise and a pretty engine bay, but then £200 is a lot to spend for a chromed pipe and a cone filter

This topic is regularly discussed on the forum and often ends with the following conclusions (summarised by me and therefore my opinion only ): -

1. The ABY airbox flows better than the 3B
2. The RS2 airbox flows better than the ABY (Porsche redesigned it for a reason)
3. The Paper element in the stock airbox has a better flow than most 'performance' elements
4. Virtually all 'performance' elements degrade rapidly, whilst the paper element is much slower to degrade, thus any slight advantage of a 'performance' element is lost in a matter of hours (or days at best)
5. Most induction kits suffer heat soak, even in the UK, no matter how good your heat shield is.
6. There are some big HP figures running on stock RS2 airboxes
7. Over 300BHP, the RS2 MAF is better than the S2

Therefore, fit an RS2 airbox and MAF. You will get a noticeable increase in noise for those of a chav persuasion but no heat soak

Cheers n

Si

P.S. I keep offering to run both my S2 and RS2 airbox and MAF at the rooling road for actual numbers, but we need to pursuade Jamo to let my car do 2 runs.

[Acidburn]

Would be good to see your car running both on the RR (possibly the upcoming one in aug) just to settle it once and for all.

Only other one that i'd like to see run up is RTM airbox, the inlet port on that looks mental.

[dan_b]

Good post there Si, I think that sums it all up nicely.

[S2central.net]

I still do not see the point of induction kits for the S2

P.S. I keep offering to run both my S2 and RS2 airbox and MAF at the rooling road for actual numbers, but we need to pursuade Jamo to let my car do 2 runs.

Yes - that would be good, but equally good would be to compare them on the same stretch of test strip with a g-meter...

I've been wanting to do the same type of back-to-back comparisons with some combinations that I have available to test... Maybe VAG-COM will be enough for this as it can log acceleration times and air temps. Hmmmmmmm

- ABY airbox versus DIK (Dahlback Induction Kit)
- Metal PP versus Plastic PP
- ABY intercooler versus RS2 intercooler

Quite tricky to do these tests as you need same ambient conditions... And swapping some of these engine parts is tricky with a hot engine.

Paul