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  • AndyP
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Feb 2004
    • 6049
    • Country: England

    #16
    Try this place for castings:-



    They did a job for me at work and they were very reasonable on price, nice quality too, good enough to get past an MOD inspector.
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    • aspro
      S2Forum Fanatic
      • Dec 2005
      • 75
      • Country: England

      #17
      Originally posted by Lupo911
      Here is the Audi Flange for you!

      http://www.file-upload.net/download-...lange.DXF.html

      Are you Designing that Manifold for a Diesel?

      Good Luck...

      thanks lupo:

      fits like a glove BTW
      Attached Files

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      • Billman
        S2Forum Freak
        • Nov 2004
        • 4129

        #18
        Make it for 500+ on reasonable price. I am sure you can find good manufacturers in Englang or in the East with good prices.
        Go Holset or Go RS4

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        • Billman
          S2Forum Freak
          • Nov 2004
          • 4129

          #19
          Originally posted by aspro
          Hi Billman you are right the price to cast and pattern make in this country would be v expensive.

          What i am trying to acheive is a solid british design that can be produced elsewhere. in 2 sizes 1 as standard and 1 to RS2 and above spec.

          also looking at pressing the main part in two halves see image - maybe inconel

          Does anyone have a DWG or DXF of the flange for an ABY / AAN.
          Is it possible to cast inconel or press it from inconel "sheets" and then weld it? Take care of the runner design and collector.
          Go Holset or Go RS4

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          • aspro
            S2Forum Fanatic
            • Dec 2005
            • 75
            • Country: England

            #20
            Hi Billman

            The inconel version would be pressed in 2 halves then welded together.

            The Cast version would be cast from ferrous - just trying to get some material specs together.

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            • Animal Mother
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Jul 2007
              • 1135
              • Country: England

              #21
              Ever thought about a cast ceramic manifold?
              UrS6 - Homefry, Bailey DV, PiperX filter, Samco hoses, H&R springs, 3" D/P back zorst, 270bhp and 260ftlb :rock:

              Triumph Daytona 955i - mmmmmm :fire:

              80 dag dag :driving:

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              • aspro
                S2Forum Fanatic
                • Dec 2005
                • 75
                • Country: England

                #22
                mmm cast ceramic would be nice wouldn't it but i have no knowledge of the process or material.

                Does anyone have access to any rapid prototyping kit. Would be nice to get a prototype done cheaply. At the moment these costs are comming in at around £900.00 for one.

                Anyone who wants get involved in this process is more than welcome:

                My goals are to design a good flowing manifold RS2 spec or better that can at least be cast from ferrous for longevity and retail for no more than £400.

                I need help with
                rapid Prototyping.
                Flow Analysis.
                Pattern Making.

                If anyone wants to use any of my SW files they are more than welcome.

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                • aspro
                  S2Forum Fanatic
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 75
                  • Country: England

                  #23
                  here are the current drawings as pdf
                  Attached Files

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                  • Lupo911
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 312
                    • Country: Germany

                    #24
                    Originally posted by aspro
                    mmm cast ceramic would be nice wouldn't it but i have no knowledge of the process or material.

                    Does anyone have access to any rapid prototyping kit. Would be nice to get a prototype done cheaply. At the moment these costs are comming in at around £900.00 for one.

                    Anyone who wants get involved in this process is more than welcome:

                    My goals are to design a good flowing manifold RS2 spec or better that can at least be cast from ferrous for longevity and retail for no more than £400.

                    I need help with
                    rapid Prototyping.
                    Flow Analysis.
                    Pattern Making.

                    If anyone wants to use any of my SW files they are more than welcome.
                    I can Help you

                    I do have a Stratasys Printer here in my Shop. Send me your File as a STL, and i can give you a Quote.

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                    • aspro
                      S2Forum Fanatic
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 75
                      • Country: England

                      #25
                      Hi LUPO

                      That would be great thanks - what is your email. Also please can you elaborate on your diesel comment earlier would be interested in any advice you may have ?

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                      • Billman
                        S2Forum Freak
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 4129

                        #26
                        It looks like a log design. Should go for a design looking more like a header than log.
                        Go Holset or Go RS4

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                        • aspro
                          S2Forum Fanatic
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 75
                          • Country: England

                          #27
                          here is the latest
                          Attached Files

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                          • Billman
                            S2Forum Freak
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 4129

                            #28
                            it seems very flat at the collector. Orientate yourself to the RS2 design but improove its flaws (meaning same diameter all the way and a header manifold type collector).
                            Go Holset or Go RS4

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                            • Bram
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 2582
                              • Country: Netherlands

                              #29
                              Have you checked the design of the 034 EM that they took out of the shop? That seemed to be flowing enough, but the material (SS) was just not strong enough
                              Attached Files

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                              • aspro
                                S2Forum Fanatic
                                • Dec 2005
                                • 75
                                • Country: England

                                #30
                                Hi Bill

                                that picture is not a great representation of what is going on:

                                although it is fundamentaly a log design i have made efforts to increase the diameter as runner 1 runs into runner 2 same for runner 5 running into runner 4.

                                i will try a post some sectional info laters

                                basically the suface area of the section of the log between cylinder 2 and the collector or cylinder 4 and the collecter is 2* the surface area of an exhaust port.

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