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  • Animal Mother
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jul 2007
    • 1135
    • Country: England

    #1

    Urs6 -cats +homefry =MOT fail?

    In need of an MOT for the UrS6. No cats, homefry, running fine, do you reckon it will pass?

    Do they do a physical check for cats or just emissions?

    Anyone with an UrS6 and a similar setup pass or fail the MOT?
    UrS6 - Homefry, Bailey DV, PiperX filter, Samco hoses, H&R springs, 3" D/P back zorst, 270bhp and 260ftlb :rock:

    Triumph Daytona 955i - mmmmmm :fire:

    80 dag dag :driving:
  • 4WheelDrifter
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Oct 2004
    • 5773
    • Country: Devon

    #2
    Yes. It should fail.
    SS

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    • Rusty
      Super Moderator
      • Jun 2004
      • 18953
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      If it says on the MOT screen taht it should have a cat fitted and it doesn't then it'll fail. Best find yourself a friendly local garage and have it checked. You might get it close in terms of emissions and that might be enough.

      Best thing is to put it in and play dumb and see what happens...
      Cheers'en, AndyC
      1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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      • Fat Audi 80
        Super Moderator
        • Jan 2004
        • 10547
        • Country: England

        #4
        Even if you don't have to have CATs (which you don't) it won't pass emissions levels without them. BTDT.

        You WILL have to fit CATs to pass the MOT test. (Unless the MOT tester is dodgy)

        Cheers,

        Steve.
        The Perfectionist
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        Audi Class Concours winner Stoner Park 2014, ADI Concours D'Elegance Class Winner 2008, Runner up 2014. Winner, S2Forum Show'n'Shine Billing 2006 & 2008.

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        • UrS4boy
          S2Forum Obsessed
          • Feb 2006
          • 11859
          • Country: Canada

          #5
          Originally posted by Animal Mother
          In need of an MOT for the UrS6. No cats, homefry, running fine, do you reckon it will pass?

          Do they do a physical check for cats or just emissions?

          Anyone with an UrS6 and a similar setup pass or fail the MOT?
          I do not understand why people remove their cats. In good nick, they do not decrease horsepower.

          We drive big heavy gas gulping turbo cars. The least we can do is keep the cats to minimize the emissions we create. Seems morally wrong to remove them (to me).

          Where I live, the first thing they do for "Air Care" is to do a physically check for the cats. Then they run the car on the four wheel rolling road (driving a specified "road") and checking for emissions. My RS2'd UrS4 (288 whp on another four wheel dyno) passes the emission standards extremely well.

          Did I mention that I still have my OE 200K km cats?
          RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
          94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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          • dest
            S2Forum Freak
            • Feb 2006
            • 4287
            • Country: England

            #6
            The test is not that the cat is actually on the car, but the emissions from the car.
            The cat is simply there to help reduce them to the required levels.

            They may not DECREASE power, but removing them can certainly help INCREASE it!

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            • Fat Audi 80
              Super Moderator
              • Jan 2004
              • 10547
              • Country: England

              #7
              Originally posted by UrS4boy
              I do not understand why people remove their cats. In good nick, they do not decrease horsepower.

              We drive big heavy gas gulping turbo cars. The least we can do is keep the cats to minimize the emissions we create. Seems morally wrong to remove them (to me).

              Where I live, the first thing they do for "Air Care" is to do a physically check for the cats. Then they run the car on the four wheel rolling road (driving a specified "road") and checking for emissions. My RS2'd UrS4 (288 whp on another four wheel dyno) passes the emission standards extremely well.

              Did I mention that I still have my OE 200K km cats?
              Not So! My **** can feel the difference when my CATS are removed. They are definitely restrictive.

              As for morally, well I only do 4000 miles per year, so couldn't really give a stuff I let out a little more harmful gases...

              Cheers,

              Steve.
              The Perfectionist
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              Audi Class Concours winner Stoner Park 2014, ADI Concours D'Elegance Class Winner 2008, Runner up 2014. Winner, S2Forum Show'n'Shine Billing 2006 & 2008.

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              • dest
                S2Forum Freak
                • Feb 2006
                • 4287
                • Country: England

                #8
                Hmmm, so if I removed mine I would see a good benefit?
                I have been thinking about it, especially as Im concerned their smell is poluting the worlds atmosphere after a good hard run

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                • s2driveruk
                  Super Moderator
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 12696
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  they are restrictive and there are perormance cats now which are much less dense to allow for more efficient flow AND emissions control.

                  As for cats being required depends which test, Basic Emissions Test is an easier pass than the normal version, depends on age of car as to which you will be required to complete.
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                  • dest
                    S2Forum Freak
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 4287
                    • Country: England

                    #10
                    Mine will pass with no cats atall, the mot isnt an issue

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                    • topsparky
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 2014
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Fat Audi 80
                      Even if you don't have to have CATs (which you don't) it won't pass emissions levels without them. BTDT.

                      You WILL have to fit CATs to pass the MOT test. (Unless the MOT tester is dodgy)

                      Cheers,

                      Steve.
                      mine did
                      1. SHORT SHIFT KIT
                      2. PORSCHE CAYENNE CALIPERS
                      3. H & R SPRINGS
                      4. BILSTEIN SHOXS
                      5. NEW BUSHES AND HP2 STRUTS
                      6. UPRATED HIGH OUTPUT COIL PACK
                      7. ,3" turbo back s/s/ exhaust
                      8. fmic fitted

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                      • merlin's S4
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 1539
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Originally posted by topsparky
                        mine did
                        Is your's a '92? That's right on the borderline for the newer CAT emmisions requirement so you may have got away with it!
                        '93 S4 Avant now back on the road complete with new shiny go faster bits.

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                        • topsparky
                          S2Forum Fiend
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 2014
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Originally posted by merlin's S4
                          Is your's a '92? That's right on the borderline for the newer CAT emmisions requirement so you may have got away with it!
                          no 1994
                          L reg
                          1. SHORT SHIFT KIT
                          2. PORSCHE CAYENNE CALIPERS
                          3. H & R SPRINGS
                          4. BILSTEIN SHOXS
                          5. NEW BUSHES AND HP2 STRUTS
                          6. UPRATED HIGH OUTPUT COIL PACK
                          7. ,3" turbo back s/s/ exhaust
                          8. fmic fitted

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                          • Animal Mother
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 1135
                            • Country: England

                            #14
                            Cheers guys. Looks like there is no definitive answer. I'll put it in and see how it goes.

                            It's a '95 model BTW. I still have the cats and can replace the bypass pipes no problem.
                            UrS6 - Homefry, Bailey DV, PiperX filter, Samco hoses, H&R springs, 3" D/P back zorst, 270bhp and 260ftlb :rock:

                            Triumph Daytona 955i - mmmmmm :fire:

                            80 dag dag :driving:

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                            • dubmeister
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 522
                              • Country: Wales

                              #15
                              Your car will fail if it doesn't reach the emission levels
                              CO >0.3, HC >200 ppm, Lambda between 0.96 and 1.03 @ 2500-3000 rpm
                              then CO >0.5 @ idle

                              You can't be failed for not having a cat fitted as it is not part of the test



                              Good luck, never had a chipped de-catted car pass the test yet!!

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