L reg avant with 3" pipe, does it need cat for mot.

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  • s2bug
    S2Forum Addict
    • Nov 2007
    • 484
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    L reg avant with 3" pipe, does it need cat for mot.

    Looking at an avant over the weeknd and as part of its make up has a 3" fabricated pipe welded to its exisiting down pipe.

    My question is that as it is on an L plate will it need to have a CAT on board to pass its emmsions for an MOT?



    Thanks guys

    J
    S2 Avant ABY
  • Jamo
    Retired OG Mod
    • Mar 2004
    • 21750
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Yes, all Avant's need a cat to pass an MOT as none were produced prior to August 31st 1992 AFAIK

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    • S2central.net
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      • Jul 2003
      • 16590
      • Country: Northern Ireland

      #3
      It will need a CAT to pass UK MOT for sure - unless you have a friendly garage who is happy to overlook this one. Shhhh
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      • s2bug
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        • Nov 2007
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        #4
        So basically I would need to buy a cat system for the avant and if he has had the straight through welded to a std downpipe I am up for a complete system?

        Any idea on the cost as would look for this to be takeb of the asking

        Unles I know a ssssssh, but that may be ? down here in e sussex... as such

        Very helpful as I could get landed with a big bill!!!

        Many thanks

        Julius
        S2 Avant ABY

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        • MattS2
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          • Apr 2006
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          #5
          I can recommend the 034 sports cat - Passed the emissions fine.
          Linky
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          • s2bug
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            • Nov 2007
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            #6
            cost? sorry didnt see the link!

            Last edited by s2bug; 5 September 2008, 13:26.
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            • s2martyn
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              • Apr 2008
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              #7
              cat

              nope..all wrong.as an mot tester myself,there is a new ruling out which allows cars with no cat to pass the mot as long as it is within 3.5co and 1200ppm hydrocarbons..basically the mot man tests the car to bet limits(basic emissions test) ,if it fails the bet test(which it will with no cat) the co machine (gas analiser)will go to a default limit which is that of the pre 1992(k reg) limits..there is also another trick if you need to...tell the mot tester that the engine fitted to the car is of pre 1992(ie has been in a g reg car)and the etester has to test to the older limits as the older engine was never fitted to the newer cars.....all this applies if the vehicle is no older than the year 2000....ps dont tell everyone(wink wink)

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              • s2martyn
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                • Apr 2008
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                #8
                cats

                forgot to add..if you are removing the 3"downpipe i will take it

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                • s2bug
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                  • Nov 2007
                  • 484
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Thats great info my man and one to keep on the QT so to speak ....



                  Many thanks

                  S2 Avant ABY

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                  • mdm
                    S2Forum Fanatic
                    • May 2007
                    • 65
                    • Country: Northern Ireland

                    #10
                    just put my s2 through and it passed without a cat

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                    • s2bug
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                      • Nov 2007
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by s2martyn
                      nope..all wrong.as an mot tester myself,there is a new ruling out which allows cars with no cat to pass the mot as long as it is within 3.5co and 1200ppm hydrocarbons..basically the mot man tests the car to bet limits(basic emissions test) ,if it fails the bet test(which it will with no cat) the co machine (gas analiser)will go to a default limit which is that of the pre 1992(k reg) limits..there is also another trick if you need to...tell the mot tester that the engine fitted to the car is of pre 1992(ie has been in a g reg car)and the etester has to test to the older limits as the older engine was never fitted to the newer cars.....all this applies if the vehicle is no older than the year 2000....ps dont tell everyone(wink wink)

                      Thanks for the heads up, will keep that one

                      Good to know that its possible.

                      S2 Avant ABY

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                      • Jamo
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                        • Mar 2004
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by s2martyn
                        nope..all wrong.as an mot tester myself,there is a new ruling out which allows cars with no cat to pass the mot as long as it is within 3.5co and 1200ppm hydrocarbons..basically the mot man tests the car to bet limits(basic emissions test) ,if it fails the bet test(which it will with no cat) the co machine (gas analiser)will go to a default limit which is that of the pre 1992(k reg) limits..there is also another trick if you need to...tell the mot tester that the engine fitted to the car is of pre 1992(ie has been in a g reg car)and the etester has to test to the older limits as the older engine was never fitted to the newer cars.....all this applies if the vehicle is no older than the year 2000....ps dont tell everyone(wink wink)
                        Aware of the engine code one but try pulling that one off with a tester you don't know! To be honest i've had enough of no cats and now have a 034 one.

                        A decent sports cat makes no difference to straight through plus with VOSA more apparent on the road side checks I'd rather no longer take the risks

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                        • s2martyn
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                          • Apr 2008
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                          #13
                          cats

                          its not a case of knowing the tester or not..thats the rules as stated in the bible(mot testing guide)if any vehicle made b4 2001 fails the bet test then the computer(gas analizer)reverts to default limits on its own....vosa is the controling body of the mot test and thats what they stipulate,so in firness a roadside stop should pass the way an mot does..

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                          • MattS2
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                            • Apr 2006
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                            #14
                            It saves no end of hassle if you you just fit a sports cat.
                            Legal and free flowing - what more could you ask for.
                            Ex owner of a 1993 Silver Avant - RS2 spec.
                            2002 A8 sport 2.8 quattro Sold
                            2003 A6 Avant Tdi
                            Mk Indy 2.0 pinto circa 160 Bhp
                            2004 VW Caddy SDi
                            2002 Civic Type R

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                            • Bram
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                              • Aug 2006
                              • 2582
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                              #15
                              I run a 3" race-cat from 034 and it passed the MOT without any problems

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