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  • Mihnea
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jul 2003
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    #16
    @Floddy: the SQ head is different from a 3B/ABY/AAN/ADU head and it did only have 2 studs per exhaust port indeed.

    Cheers,

    Mihnea
    '98 Silver Grey 2.7T S4, dual 2.75" turbo back exhaust with no cats, FMIC, BIG injectors, 10 Bar motorsport fuel pump, modded RS4 turbos, tubular exhaust manifolds, custom intakes, RS4 MAF, Bilstein PSS9, H&R ARBs, 19" BBS CH, custom remap, 511 BHP/505ft-lbs

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    • Floddy
      S2Forum Addict
      • Dec 2003
      • 222
      • Country: Sweden

      #17
      @Minhea: The yellow urquattro from irry has a S1 head, but that one has the same bolt pattern as the S2 ones. That means that the S1 and Sq has a different layout of the studs, or am I drunk?
      Red cars are the fastest ones...
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      • Mihnea
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Jul 2003
        • 1288
        • Home: Belgium Current: United Kingdom

        #18
        @Minhea: The yellow urquattro from irry has a S1 head, but that one has the same bolt pattern as the S2 ones. That means that the S1 and Sq has a different layout of the studs, or am I drunk?
        Hmmm, dunno mate, maybe the SQ has the holes/threads for the additional studs but doesn't use them? I wouldn't have expected the S1 head to have a different head than the SQ though (KW motor)...
        '98 Silver Grey 2.7T S4, dual 2.75" turbo back exhaust with no cats, FMIC, BIG injectors, 10 Bar motorsport fuel pump, modded RS4 turbos, tubular exhaust manifolds, custom intakes, RS4 MAF, Bilstein PSS9, H&R ARBs, 19" BBS CH, custom remap, 511 BHP/505ft-lbs

        www.MRCTuning.com
        info@MRCTuning.com
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        • Corey
          Banned
          • Sep 2003
          • 2793
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #19
          Looks like a 10v flange, but it looks like it would put the wastegate into the IM, unless i am looking at it the wrong way and it is placing the wastegate below, but then it would foul the oil filters.

          Anybody got a normal 20v flange for comparison
          Corey
          01636 822288

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          • Mark Halligan
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Jul 2003
            • 2001
            • Country: England

            #20
            These look identical to the few Audi made SQ manifolds that I have seen in the flesh (the last one was Habib's) or any pictures I've seen too.

            Mark.
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            • Mark Halligan
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              • Jul 2003
              • 2001
              • Country: England

              #21
              Originally posted by Mark Halligan
              These look identical to the few Audi made SQ manifolds that I have seen in the flesh (the last one was Habib's) or any pictures I've seen too.

              Mark.
              Ah, found a picture.

              As Mihnea says the OEM SQ manifold came with two-stud flanges. The MTM S1 manifold which I have comes with the four-stud type flange. Interestingly that is not the only difference, on the OEM Audi SQ manifold's no.5 runner joins the collector at the top, whilst the MTM version has the runner join the collector at the bottom.

              Mark.
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              • Mark Halligan
                S2Forum Fiend
                • Jul 2003
                • 2001
                • Country: England

                #22
                The MTM 'S1' manifold.
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                • Nick Psaltakis
                  S2Forum Fanatic
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 91

                  #23
                  Hi Mark
                  how much is the MTM S1 manifold?
                  Cheers Nick
                  Originally posted by Mark Halligan
                  The MTM 'S1' manifold.

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                  • Mark Halligan
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 2001
                    • Country: England

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Nick Psaltakis
                    Hi Mark
                    how much is the MTM S1 manifold?
                    Cheers Nick
                    Nick, according to their site 1630 Euros .

                    Mark.

                    P.S. you'll need a new downpipe though.
                    Last edited by Mark Halligan; 22 April 2004, 22:17.
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                    • audiman
                      S2Forum Freak
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 4827
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      Oh what its like to be loaded hey Mark! More money than sense. Wish i bought the SQ manifold instead of my RS2 one Could have bought a SH one for the cost of the new RS2 one.
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                      Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
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                      • Stick Insect
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 2338
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #26
                        I'm not offering to get involved buuuuuuut, why don't you find what you want and get some made?

                        There are a couple of ways that manifolds can be made
                        1/ casting
                        2/ fabricating

                        Not being a sexgod in these matters but I would assume the cast option is preferable as the chamber size can be minimised to reduce lag and the wall thickness can be beefed up to provide strength and support the turbo+W/G. I think the Calibra turo had the exhaust manifold and the hot side as the same item. Casting has to e in high silicon cast iron or something similar.

                        fabricating could be done reasonably easily but a nasty job to do I would have thought.

                        Either can be done in this country 'the home of the Quattro' well its as english as the owners of Rolls Royce and Bentley are!

                        David

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                        • audiman
                          S2Forum Freak
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 4827
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #27
                          That would cost loads!! It would be cheaper to have a tubular manifold made from SS, i think.
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                          Tom C - www.rcmr.co.uk
                          Audi UR Quattro
                          Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
                          Audi S2 - 07k engine project aiming for 800ps
                          Audi B5 RS4 645ps 911nm

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                          • Mark Halligan
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                            • Jul 2003
                            • 2001
                            • Country: England

                            #28
                            Originally posted by audiman
                            Oh what its like to be loaded hey Mark!
                            LOL, not anymore Tom (as if I ever was), I would love the MTM inlet too, but I cant have it .

                            Mark .
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                            • Stick Insect
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 2338
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #29
                              Originally posted by audiman
                              That would cost loads!! It would be cheaper to have a tubular manifold made from SS, i think.
                              Tom, limited production runs of heads mean they end up costing 2K with valves etc. they are a lot more work. I will check with someone about this.

                              birmingham will have someone who could quote I feel. as for quality, look at the MTM inlet manifold, not true German quality I feel and aluminium casting is cheaper anyway!


                              picture of 3B exhaust ports stolen from Beppos site on www.irry.com (with acknowledgements!)
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                              • Josh-stateside
                                S2Forum Maniac
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 741
                                • Country: United States

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Mark Halligan
                                The MTM 'S1' manifold.



                                Dalback sell this as the sport quattro manifold... But doesn't list it as the mtm version.
                                I chose not to choose life: I chose something else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who need reasons when you've got quattro?

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