S2 Coupe stainless steel exhausts (Miltek)?

[s2martyn]

do miltek do a system for the coupe as i cant find one listed?can anyone recomend a system if not..i dont want one of those made up ones from back st garages that have not been tested,thet allways end up losing hp instead of gaining..would like a branded one ie scorpian.miltek or simular.

[Fat Audi 80]

They do, but I believe it has now been discontinued.

You may find a secondhand one on here, or the bay.

Cheers,

Steve

[Jamo]

do miltek do a system for the coupe as i cant find one listed?can anyone recomend a system if not..i dont want one of those made up ones from back st garages that have not been tested,thet allways end up losing hp instead of gaining..would like a branded one ie scorpian.miltek or simular.

What kind of rubbish is that?

The only difference with the Milltek is sound and price, you get better value with a full custom made system as the Milltek use dual centre pipes instead of a single big bore pipe.

[s2martyn]

rubish?i dont think so!!how can custom made,using boxes that are universal create the correct back pressures and sound that other makes have devolped be better?i wouldnt use ANY exhaust that has been built up by a aftermarket supplyer....it has been proven by myself and others that these inferior systems loose you bhp....ok some of them will gain you bhp but that is down to luck rather than the tryed and tested method of proper engineered systems...universal stuff imo is usually crap..you wouldnt use a universal lambda sensor or the likes would you?or maybe you would?

[Jamo]

Mate absolute poppy c*ck, it must be named to be any good?

The best systems on the S2 seen have been one's made or aftermarket as you say to fit the car directly rather than generic off the shelf

As for Milltek read below. I have Milltek myslef, sounds great but it is by no means the best on the market for values.

http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26354

[Fat Audi 80]

If you want tried and tested gains, go for the Supersprint. You will need deep pockets though.

I have no experience of buying custom exhausts, but from reading here, they do indeed range from the sublime to the ridiculously crap.

Go on recommendation if you go down that route.

Personally, I can understand why you would go for or an off the shelf one as opposed to custom.

Cheers,

Steve.

[Jamo]

Very true it's a fine line Fatty 'm trying to educate here that because it's Milltek and expensive it isn't better than a custom system from say example OJZ Engineering / Prospeed / Hayward & Scott etc

Supersprint is the best off the shelf but only comes up to 2.75 inch

[stiglet]

rubish?i dont think so!!how can custom made,using boxes that are universal create the correct back pressures and sound that other makes have devolped be better?

I think you'll find the complete opposite. Most of the big names use universal silencers, usually made in Mongolia or Singapore or something by a completely different company that know nothing about your car, despite what the sales guy will tell you. Longlife definately do.

Custom made exhausts will ususally end up with a custom made silencer. I know Charlie at Prospeed makes all his own stuff.

Some big names will give you power, some won't. Custom made is made to your specs, so it depends on what YOU want wether or not you get a power gain.

[Rusty]

I'm getting a Prospeed system fitted to replace my milltek. this coming weekend, the Milltek is very refined and suits the character of a standard S2 perfectly but there are gains to be had from a better downpipe and freer flowing cats than OEM. Unfortunately for you I've already sold the Milltek on but speak to Pete at Quattro Corner and see if he's go any left... Otherwise there are some tried and tested back street garages on here who will sculpt you a lovely piece of kit from 3" stainless that will be perfectly suited to any state of tune, it's no coincidence that top tuners like MRC use a tried and tested backstreet garage for all their custom work.

[S2central.net]

For my tuppence on this one - the art of exhaust tuning for back pressure is only relevant in normally aspirated cars... With a turbo engine you want the absolute minimum of back pressure for max power. Of course the trade-off is things like noise so some silencing of the 5-cyl symphony is required for road use (and more and more trackdays it would seem).

I wouldn't worry so much about the source of silencer boxes - as long as they are well built and have a nice free flowing character that we need for performance.

The most important thing for ay exhaust is how it is put together on the car so that it doesn't compromise ground clearance, or create any clunking noises if its too close to bodywork or running gear. It must be sturdily constructed from suitable grade stainless steel and properly support of the system along the length of the car.

I wouldn't get hung up on one exhaust brand name over the other. The Milltek does sound damn nice, and by all accounts is a good fit and I think some gains have been measured. Same goes for Supersprint. Scorpion have some partial systems as well - generally louder than average IIRC. Equally, a good exhaust specialist should have no great drama creating a custom system for the S2 for your needs - with a choice of CATs, number and location of silencers etc etc

[stiglet]

And on a side note...

rubish?i dont think so!!how can custom made,using boxes that are universal create the correct back pressures and sound that other makes have devolped be better?

Reason why there is no such thing as "correct back pressure" for modern engines

[stiglet]

Paul you beat me to it again!

[Jamo]

I feel bad didn't mean to beat up s2martyn in this thread.

I hope you find the exhaust your looking for, but open your mind getting results isn't about fitting a name but the right part.

[Rusty]

Ubermoderator Jamo strikes

FWIR, the only reason for limiting the size of the tubes in a full turboback system is to maintain gas velocity as the gases cool and thus leave an area of low pressure for the next pulse to flow into.

[GazzaG60]

my mate proved a 40 hp gain with his systems on a standard subaru a fair number of times. in fact the rochdale dealer sold them as the option system for wrx and sti. they were made by JP i dont think he would mind me saying.

custom for power miltek/supersprint for looks quiet and not being boomy.