MTM Intake vs. SMS Revo Intake PICS

[Wolfgang]

hey guys,

i think that these pictures could be interesting for people who don´t know which intake manifold to take.

the wagner IM is still missing but i´m working on that.

First the IM´s alone:











next post the SMS Revo IM..

[Wolfgang]

here pictures of the SMS Revo 2 camber IM:







On this IM Digi-Tec worked on. There is also a Digi-Tec Sign in the IM, this is also the reason why the "SMS" on the top is missing. The IM was in a Digi-Tec RS2, with a changed water-pipe. Problem is that the water-pipe in the S4/S6 Revo is a special one.

Also the bracket for the cruise-control "part" ( do´t know the word) is missing.

I must have a look i´ve got photos of the water-pipe anywhere.

[Wolfgang]

here the comparison:















You can see the green marker on the SMS. This is the place where the original water pipe stands on the IM. There is definetely no place to run with a stock S2/RS2 water-pipe. This is the reason why Digi-Tec changed the original S2/RS2 water pipe. Luckily i got the water pipe with the IM.

S2/RS2 had never got the 2 chamber IM from SMS, only the Revo S4/S6.

[Wolfgang]

here the last comparison between AAN, MTM and SMS Revo:



wolfgang

[A80Avant]

why do i have the impression that the MTM is more or less the same as wagners?
also i would like to be able to have that damn cruise control on such manifold....

[Bram]

Thanks for sharing! Nice to see some details.....

[kwlw]

Thanks for sharing! Nice to see some details.....

Same here . Thanks for interesting pictures. Always wanted to see those closeup's!

Sau

[Audi Parts Guru]

Thanks for posting these Wolfgang

Is the SMS manifold for sale? :mischeif:

[lind4hl]

i have a wagner intake manifold on my way home now, i could take some pics for you if you like too?

[twoqu]

Must admit I looked for an SMS Revo manifold for years but as the company no longer exists, I doubt whether there will be many just laying around. It certaintly seems to follow good design with the tapered inlet into a plenum, although the plenum itself looks quite small. I think I remember some criticism about this aspect somewhere.
Would be interesting to see how that flowed in comparsion to the other manifolds out there. Perhaps you should get it remanufactured. I would have one!
I would like to shake the person by the throat who designed the inlet/exhaust manifolds of our car!

[Wolfgang]

hi,

no the SMS Intake isn´t for sale, sorry. I was really really lucky to get one of those f***ing rare IMs, although it wasn´t a cheap one, i had to bought this... The SMS Revo IM is from Lehmann designed and made. Lehmann himself sais that the upper limit is at round about 450HP for this IM. ( this was said in another Forum by a good customer/friend of Lehmann )

Schmidt Motorsport is round about 30km away from my home and i can tell you that there are definetely no more IMs lying around. The last two ones bought a friend of me with another friend in 2002.

there was a remanufactoring planned some months ago. a guy from a german forum made quite a good connection to a person from SMS. AFAIK price per IM if there are going to be 5 pieces taken was round about 1600€. The huge price is possibly the reason why there is going to be no remanufactoring of this IM i think...

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If you´ve a lot of luck you´ll get the MTM IM direct at MTM still yet. I think the last price was 1190€ on the online shop, BUT the throttle-line for the IM is another 200€ at MTM. Means all for all nearly 1400€ for the IM..

Also MTM cancelled S2 and RS2 on their online shop, i suppose that the cars are to old nowadays...

a flow test has been done on these IMs, these IMs had been flowed:

MTM
SMS Revo
Stock ABY/ADU
Stock AAN
Hacke-Racing
Wagner

And some others as far as i remember, the results are going to be posted from the person who paid the test, if this is going to happen i´ll post the datas here.

2 friends of me ordered 2 Furans IMs. Perhaps one of these could also be flowed. don´t know yet, but let´s have a look. Would be nice i think.

wolfgang

[Jamo]

Personally I'm using the wagner IM, tested to over 700 bhp on multiple I5 engines by 034 and PK Motorsport.

[Bram]

Personally I'm using the wagner IM, tested to over 700 bhp on multiple I5 engines by 034 and PK Motorsport.

Same here. When I have the money I will buy a Wagner IM

[GazzaG60]

the wager works i can vouch for that. is very siminlar to the mtm. the wagner has a slightly wider neck near the3 tb though i think.

[Jamo]

Note on the flow tests

MTM <-- interested to see
SMS Revo <-- interested to see
Stock ABY/ADU <-- Results on forum
Stock AAN <-- Results on forum
Hacke-Racing <-- I have these results IIRC will not post on forum
Wagner <-- Results on forum

To be honest flows are a good indication but not the be all and end all. Real world results always out way theoretical flows.