Improve RS2 intake/exhaust

[MarT2]

Hi people!

I have a stock ADU engine (turbo, ecu, injectors, camshaft, camshaft pulley, etc).

I would like to improve the intake and exhaust system. What is the best way to do it?

I think in a supersprint complete exhaust and wagner intake manifold and intercooler kit.

How much power can I obtain with it? Or is innecessary an the best option is the same that a stock RS2?

What is the best option for exhaust manifold? I actually use a RS2 replica (plazacomplex). You recommend me change it for a OEM RS2 EM? Or better a RS2 EVO from wagner?

I remember you that is for a stock RS2 engine, with a good chips from MRC.

Thanks!

PD: Sorry for my english, i'm very bad spelling it! ;D

[GazzaG60]

hi

i would not bother with the wagner inlet unless you want lots more power.

id change the rods if you are going to push the rs2 turbo to the limit.

for the exhaust it depends on how much noise you want. supersprints have always been well made but a full 3" with 1 box will give more power. maybe hard to justify on a small turbo like the Rs2 but it would help non the less.

exhaust manifolds are another area for balance. if you are staying with the rs2 turbo then it makes sense to stay with the rs2 manifold. balanced together from the start.

your gonna be looking at 350hp or so and lots of torque. it not worth shooting for 400hp at that level. that extra 50 wont make a lot of difference. gotta shoot for 450 for the next worthwhile stage i feel and thats then wagner and bigger turbo etc.

my 2p

[Rusty]

As above, 3" turbo back exhaust to the noise level you want. I'd go Wagner IM purely because it will make a difference and is there for more power, efficiency is worth it. If you're staying RS2 turbo then EM, cams and rods are all fine. Ported and Polished head is agood plan too

[Jamo]

Wagner intake or reverse manifold is a must, it does not make more power but reduces lag and inlet temperatures which can be seen in up to 500 rpm less turbo spool.

[GazzaG60]

id agree with the 500rpm spool. i thought a rsd2 turbo spooled low anyway? but on stock everything id save my money, keep my crusie control and bonnet plastics and save a dint in the underside too. advantage for you is no cable hassles being lhd.

he said the engine is stock and staying that way.

just going from experi of wagner pro's and con's

[Rusty]

MRC high boost map is supposed to be 10/10 at the mo too

[Jamo]

Reduction in turbo lag has no cons IMO, MRC high boost chip another good shout, full 3" exhaust

If you look above he's using a replica manifold not a true RS2 one. If your up for changing it again Wagner one is a good choice for future proofing but to be honest if your going to be running a stock setup (missed that) then just get the MRC chips and see how you like that.

[MarT2]

Then you recommend me change the RS2 replica EM for a OEM RS2 EM? Or the replica EM is well?

Isn't the supersprint full 3" exhaust? What are the differences between supersprint and a wellmade full 3" exhaust?

You recommend the wagner inlet or better the stock inlet? My S2 don't have cruise control.

Finally, is necessary change the rods or the stock rods are good?

How much power can I obtain with this configuration? 380cv is possible?

Thanks

PD: I don't understand this phrase:
"your gonna be looking at 350hp or so and lots of torque. it not worth shooting for 400hp at that level. that extra 50 wont make a lot of difference. gotta shoot for 450 for the next worthwhile stage i feel and thats then wagner and bigger turbo etc."
Sorry

[Acidburn]

supersprint from what i've read is 2.75 d/p

depends what power your after, if your just going to go mrc remap then you don't need rods but if your going for max power then yeah you will need some.

3 inch will flow better but probably be louder by a bit.

[MarT2]

supersprint from what i've read is 2.75 d/p

depends what power your after, if your just going to go mrc remap then you don't need rods but if your going for max power then yeah you will need some.

3 inch will flow better but probably be louder by a bit.

I'm searching for 360-380cv.

[Jamo]

Supersprint is 2.75 inch like the OEM system.

If you want to spend the money, Wagner Inlet and Wagner Exhaust manifold. 3" downpipe and single sports cat, MRC high boost chip will work with stock rods AFAIK.

That will give you the power you want with minimum spool.

[MarT2]

Supersprint is 2.75 inch like the OEM system.

If you want to spend the money, Wagner Inlet and Wagner Exhaust manifold. 3" downpipe and single sports cat, MRC high boost chip will work with stock rods AFAIK.

That will give you the power you want with minimum spool.

I was thinking that the wagner EM and full 3" exhaust is too big for stock turbo. Isn't it?

[Rusty]

Nah, it's perfect It's arguably too big for S2 but not for RS2, should give some great gains like S2Avant has seen on his RS2 spec S2 Avant.

[Jamo]

I was thinking that the wagner EM and full 3" exhaust is too big for stock turbo. Isn't it?

No it's a perfect match

[GazzaG60]

well you dont have too much to worry about if you dont have cruise.

the wagner works well. i felt my standard inlet feel like it was near the limit around the 400 mark. the wagner inlet reduced spool a little due to piping and not cool air although unless you can fill it air velocity reductinos take away some of the benifits.. when at 4k upwards theres lots of air flowing far too fast to gain temperatures from warm engine parts. same principle appllies with cone filters.

personally id do the exhaust and manifold and put the money into rods so you can get the most out of the turbo if its right that rs2's can bend rods. stock rods are crap. one way to help them is to fit ford 289 ARP bolts. these handle a few more revs and a bit more power. i got a set for 2 16v engines (289 is a v8) so you get a cheap deal. easier to fit scats. well neither is easy.

id stay with the stock inlet unless a bigger turbo is on the way. i like a bit of lag anyway.

each to their own on this one.

PD: I don't understand this phrase:
"your gonna be looking at 350hp or so and lots of torque. it not worth shooting for 400hp at that level. that extra 50 wont make a lot of difference. gotta shoot for 450 for the next worthwhile stage i feel and thats then wagner and bigger turbo etc."
Sorry

what im saying is that it takes a fair few hp to make a difference at this level but around the 380 mark is where you need to spend to see the next noticable improvement at around 450-500hp.