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  • Rusty
    Super Moderator
    • Jun 2004
    • 18953
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    Nah, what you want to do Paul is sell it to Sonic, I heard he runs a sanctuary in the green hills of the Lake District for retired RS2 turbos that others have given up on

    It's hybrid time Paul, only been about 4 years since you first mentioned it

    Would be good to get a hybrid that allowed the maximising of S2 components to 330bhp or so, perhaps with an RS2 EM. TD offered the T3 comp wheel as per the comp map I sent you. Perhaps if you could tell them what is required to get 1.5bar as close to the red line as possible then they could find the components to do so.
    Cheers'en, AndyC
    1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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    • Ross
      S2Forum Possessed
      • Aug 2005
      • 3399
      • Country: England

      #17
      I had another look at the compressor map from the T60 the other day - I may have been a bit harsh at first, I think it'll push a bit more than stock, still not sure if it is enough to make it worth it for £500. Anyone have a K24 compressor map for comparison?

      How many times did I have to tell Sonic to forget the ebay turbo's and go for something rebuilt or new.. won't laugh I've BTDT myself to get a perceived bargain - sometimes too good to resist!

      Personally I still like the idea of finding something that can be reproduced easily, at reasonable cost, and perform the Nothelle turbo. Bry don't temp me... I could never waste a GT2871 by restricting it to such low power values, i mean you may as well change the EM then, and get new injectors... :mischeif:
      AUDI - saving Dad's from minivans since 1994

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      • Rusty
        Super Moderator
        • Jun 2004
        • 18953
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        CT350 is good VFM and can be customised to specific requirements. 2871 surge is about the only downside, oh, and the potential oil restrictor issues.
        Cheers'en, AndyC
        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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        • S2central.net
          Retired OG Mod
          • Jul 2003
          • 16590
          • Country: Northern Ireland

          #19
          Originally posted by aelred
          I would say forget it
          Gotta admire that direct viewpoint... Goes with my gut feel so thats a bonus...
          Paul Nugent
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          • S2central.net
            Retired OG Mod
            • Jul 2003
            • 16590
            • Country: Northern Ireland

            #20
            I have the spec of the Nothelle turbo so I can probably get a hybrid built to that spec - or as close as makes no difference. It needs a new hotside anyway so that matched to the right turbine wheel should get me there. Then I'll be carrying the worlds fastest puddle inside my poor old car.
            Paul Nugent
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            2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
            2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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            • Sonic
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              • Jul 2006
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              #21
              Originally posted by Rusty
              Nah, what you want to do Paul is sell it to Sonic, I heard he runs a sanctuary in the green hills of the Lake District for retired RS2 turbos that others have given up on
              Ive only got 3 after sending a couple back!

              I need to get one fitted i think...

              One of the ones i have has a cracked hotside also, so would be interested to see what i can do with it.
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              • A80Avant
                S2Forum Obsessed
                • Sep 2005
                • 10873
                • Country: Greece

                #22
                i think it was rebuilt with all original parts,and therefore 270 bearing. I could be wrong,but back then my knowledge of 360 and 270 bearins were not efficient to ask about it. I just asked for a turbo rebuilt so that i wouldnt have to buy a new one...

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                • ericd
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 1240
                  • Country: Scotland

                  #23
                  Originally posted by S2central.net
                  I have the spec of the Nothelle turbo so I can probably get a hybrid built to that spec - or as close as makes no difference. It needs a new hotside anyway so that matched to the right turbine wheel should get me there. Then I'll be carrying the worlds fastest puddle inside my poor old car.
                  just mind and get the 360 bearing on it , should be around additional £80-£100

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                  • GazzaG60
                    S2Forum Freak
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 4133
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
                    is it really worth the cost and hassle for the few hp gained. those will be pricey horses.

                    i think you will feel it more on your wallet than on your but dyno

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                    • Rusty
                      Super Moderator
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 18953
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      Hardly pricey when compared to an engine rebuild and new everything...
                      Cheers'en, AndyC
                      1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                      • 20Vcqdriver
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 829
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #26
                        Out of interest how delicate are the internals of a turbo. Been suggested that my applying light sideways force to shaft to check for play in the bearings to compare old and refurbed play could damage seals/bearings hence why it smoked like a old chimney after 100miles. Surely this is unlikely. Put my mind at rest.... one area I know little about!
                        1986 Coupe q - 2281cc 3B, chargecooler, 2.75" exh & downpipe, ported head, water injection, CGR box, modified MD357 turbo, 440cc injectors, high power coil.
                        2004 A4 2.5TDi convertible, re-mapped to 180bhp
                        2011 A5 sportback 3TDi-Backbox delete, remap

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                        • Rusty
                          Super Moderator
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 18953
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #27
                          I'd be worried if you could damage a turbo by hand without trying... that excuse smells a bit whiffy to me.
                          Cheers'en, AndyC
                          1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                          • S2central.net
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 16590
                            • Country: Northern Ireland

                            #28
                            Originally posted by GazzaG60
                            is it really worth the cost and hassle for the few hp gained. those will be pricey horses.

                            i think you will feel it more on your wallet than on your but dyno
                            I have some sympathy for that opinion - hence my concern about doing this. However, I like the low lag of the K24 but we all know it runs out of puff circa 300bhp.

                            A full RS2 setup gets into 360-380bhp territory with heaps more torque in the midrange than the K24. Bit more lag.

                            I think a small RS2 hybrid should be 330-340bhp ish and with same torque in midrange as the full RS2. It will run out of puff in the high revs of course, with smaller hotside than full RS2 turbo, but I think its a useful upgrade on my tired old K24 - mostly for the torque factor - but with minimal extra lag...
                            Paul Nugent
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                            Administrator http://S2forum.com

                            1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                            2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                            2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                            Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                            There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                            • Ross
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 3399
                              • Country: England

                              #29
                              Originally posted by GazzaG60
                              is it really worth the cost and hassle for the few hp gained. those will be pricey horses.

                              i think you will feel it more on your wallet than on your but dyno
                              That's why a decent direct replacement hybrid needs to be developed! An extra 40hp for the price of a new turbo and remap would be great value I think. Think of the extra required for RS2 spec to get an extra 80-100hp... EM, injectors, intercooler all need doing on top of that. Price per HP is in the same league.

                              What I can agree with, is if this ended up costing £1k+ for the turbo, then you may as well buy RS2 turbo + EM and go the whole hog. And if it ended up only giving an extra 20hp you'd be pretty gutted...
                              AUDI - saving Dad's from minivans since 1994

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                              • S2central.net
                                Retired OG Mod
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 16590
                                • Country: Northern Ireland

                                #30
                                Ross - a small hybrid is going to need RS2 injectors to get best out of it... The stock S2 ones are going to be very marginal for my liking. Could maybe try it stock injectors with a 5bar or variable FPR but thats putting a bit more stress on the fuel system.

                                RS2 or bigger intercooler is always good, and I suspect the RS2 EM will have benefits too - but the EM shouldn't be necessary really.
                                Paul Nugent
                                Webmaster http://S2central.net
                                Administrator http://S2forum.com

                                1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                                2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                                2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                                Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                                There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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