Atmospheric V's Recirc DV

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  • Smith_S2
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Feb 2007
    • 634
    • Country: Scotland

    #1

    Atmospheric V's Recirc DV

    I recently put an atmospheric DV on and the car and i noticed quite a difference between the standard 710N, that car pulled much more aggressively. I have changed back to a recirculating due to the pppppppppiiiiiissssssshhhhhhhhhht it was driving me nuts.

    Now i have put a plumb black turbosmart recirc instead of the 710N and the car does not feel as powerful or pull as hard as as it did with the atmospheric.

    One thing i did notice was the spring strength between the two turbosmart DV's. Atmospheric was very stiff and the recirc is much softer.

    I think i'm losing boost through the DV, can i change the spring inside the DV?
  • lind4hl
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jul 2008
    • 2465
    • Country: Sweden

    #2
    yeah you should be able to do that.

    IMO i would never run a car with maf with Open dump-valve btw. it messes up the signals to the ecu.

    One thing i've learned we are way behind the Scandinavians!

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    • Rusty
      Super Moderator
      • Jun 2004
      • 18953
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      It feels slow because it's much smoother. On a stock car an atmospheric DV gives a stutter when you apply the throttle so it feels like it kicks harder whereas in reality it's slower as it's running rich for a fraction of a second. Tried both, atmospheric felt like toss compared to a stock 710N but it did sound nice when you're giving it some beans Best effort if you need the noise is something like the GFB one I had where you can adjust the recirc % and thus noise level, I had it set so that it was about 90% recirc so it ran better and still gave a nice woosh (much quieter than 100% atmospheric)... still not as good as a full recir tho.
      Cheers'en, AndyC
      1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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      • Smith_S2
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Feb 2007
        • 634
        • Country: Scotland

        #4
        Gfb? The recirc Turbosmart DV i have on just now is so quiet, it's great does not chitter like the 710N though!

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        • lind4hl
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Jul 2008
          • 2465
          • Country: Sweden

          #5
          Go fast Bits i think..

          One thing i've learned we are way behind the Scandinavians!

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          • sjw185
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Jun 2007
            • 1175
            • Country: Scotland

            #6
            tried turbosmart atmospheric DV vs New 710 back to back.
            The turbosmart is far better, Stronger boost plus gauge showing slightly higher
            Was sure my new 710 was passing.
            Need to get on the rollers to see whats happening with fueling etc.
            John is your TS recirc adjustable?

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            • Smith_S2
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Feb 2007
              • 634
              • Country: Scotland

              #7
              Originally posted by sjw185
              tried turbosmart atmospheric DV vs New 710 back to back.
              The turbosmart is far better, Stronger boost plus gauge showing slightly higher
              Was sure my new 710 was passing.
              Need to get on the rollers to see whats happening with fueling etc.
              John is your TS recirc adjustable?
              Yeah i have would in the Valve right down to the hardest setting. I'm on the hunt for a stiffer spring! The DV you have is fantastic IMHO. It's proper no boost then WAM BAM full boost.

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              • sjw185
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Jun 2007
                • 1175
                • Country: Scotland

                #8
                Yea didint get alot of testing done before I had to go offshore again
                Just got mine set halfway at the moment, you could try running your new one atmospheric if you had a bung to see if it was passing?
                Remember someone trying a forge or baily BOV round the other way with better results?

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                • Smith_S2
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 634
                  • Country: Scotland

                  #9
                  Originally posted by sjw185
                  Just got mine set halfway at the moment, you could try running your new one atmospheric if you had a bung to see if it was passing?
                  Remember someone trying a forge or baily BOV round the other way with better results?
                  Might be worth a try. The difference between my DV and yours is pretty big. You can push my valve in no problem with you finger even when wound in, but yours wound out all the way is so much stronger.

                  A good excuse to meet up and try out each others cars i reckon

                  Have a safe trip home when it comes!

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                  • sjw185
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 1175
                    • Country: Scotland

                    #10
                    Will be back in a couple of weeks so if your still at home we can do some tests

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                    • Rusty
                      Super Moderator
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 18953
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Originally posted by lind4hl
                      Go fast Bits i think..
                      Bingo. Cost a fortune but it was a super piece of kit, well designed, well made and did the job.
                      Cheers'en, AndyC
                      1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                      • GazzaG60
                        S2Forum Freak
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 4133
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        gfb stuff is good. i use a gfb BOV. no issues.

                        some gfb have a nut to wind in some can be done by hand. made very well.

                        with bov's you certainly get what you pay for. think the DVs will be around 150 for a hand adjustable one.

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                        • Rusty
                          Super Moderator
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 18953
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          GFB has preload and recirc. hand adjust and can also be used with adaptors to change operation, noise and noise level! Very serious piece of kit and built like a tank:-

                          Cheers'en, AndyC
                          1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                          • Fat Audi 80
                            Super Moderator
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 10547
                            • Country: England

                            #14
                            Best thing to do is bring both types to the rolling road and do a before and after test...
                            The Perfectionist
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