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  • breitling
    S2Forum Addict
    • Dec 2005
    • 491
    • Country: Norway

    #1

    Exhaust pipe sizes when tuning

    Im a bit confused what to do on my urq.

    How much hp and nm can you run trough a 3"/76mm-downpipe, 70mm pipeline with only one silencer in the rear VS 3" all the way with one silencer?

    The problem is that 3" exhaust is hard to get over the rear axle without having a lot of vibrations. 70mm is easier..

    Will i have a lot of backpressure problems when reaching 600 hp?
    Im not sure but i think the sportquattro had 70mm.

    Does anyone of you great turbo experienced guys know
    Last edited by breitling; 8 July 2009, 07:21.
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  • Jamo
    Retired OG Mod
    • Mar 2004
    • 21750
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    On what car? On the Avant / RS2 the exhaust doesn't go over the axle

    Anyhow you want it large up front, by the time it gets to the rear the exhaust has cooled a lot and you can run 70mm over the rear axle but i'd say thats up to 500 bhp for your 600 you want the full 3"

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    • s2_bo
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Oct 2005
      • 6067
      • Home: United Kingdom Current: France

      #3
      If the rear axel and subframe is the same as it is on a coupe then you can get 3 " over it. Its tight but it can be done, there is a few threads about it on here already. I looked in to this too as i thought it was a problem when i had my 3" system made, turned out they got it to fit fine and it doesn't rattle or knock at all.
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      • breitling
        S2Forum Addict
        • Dec 2005
        • 491
        • Country: Norway

        #4
        Originally posted by Jamo
        On what car? On the Avant / RS2 the exhaust doesn't go over the axle

        Anyhow you want it large up front, by the time it gets to the rear the exhaust has cooled a lot and you can run 70mm over the rear axle but i'd say thats up to 500 bhp for your 600 you want the full 3"
        Thanks
        Its for the urquattro.

        Originally posted by s2_bo
        If the rear axel and subframe is the same as it is on a coupe then you can get 3 " over it. Its tight but it can be done, there is a few threads about it on here already. I looked in to this too as i thought it was a problem when i had my 3" system made, turned out they got it to fit fine and it doesn't rattle or knock at all.
        Yes its the same axle. I know it can be done, but i can have a handmade exhaustline that fits like a glove. But thats only 70mm.... he dont want to make a 3"
        If its only good for 500 hp i think its too small/tight.
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        • G60Rallye
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Dec 2006
          • 1321
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          I think its wrong to say that one size will limit the power to a set level. Its more than likely just going to knock a few bhp off what it could do with a larger exhaust.

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          • Jamo
            Retired OG Mod
            • Mar 2004
            • 21750
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            As i've said before it's not a limit it's the knock effect of EGT's and back pressure that's the problem, 600 bhp is a lot of gasses to flow at that power ideally you'd be looking at 3.5" downpipe.

            A full 3" system would just about cut it so going to 70mm partway is going to have a detrimental effect and with the money being placed on the project not worth the risk IMO.

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            • breitling
              S2Forum Addict
              • Dec 2005
              • 491
              • Country: Norway

              #7
              Hmm...
              So the best solution here would be 3,5" downpipe and 3" pipeline..?
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              • Jamo
                Retired OG Mod
                • Mar 2004
                • 21750
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                For true 600 bhp and that headroom yes IMO

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                • AUDIS2avant
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 670
                  • Country: Denmark

                  #9
                  ive done 650 on a 3" stainles system for a few years now and have almost no backpressure, and have a friend with 800 on the same 3" also, but his is shorter then mine.
                  Would say arr 500 on a 70mm full system, but do a big dp, and push it as long as you can, that would help a lot on things, and with as much straight pipe as possible, the more bends the more backpressure

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                  • breitling
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 491
                    • Country: Norway

                    #10
                    Originally posted by AUDIS2avant
                    ive done 650 on a 3" stainles system for a few years now and have almost no backpressure, and have a friend with 800 on the same 3" also, but his is shorter then mine.
                    Would say arr 500 on a 70mm full system, but do a big dp, and push it as long as you can, that would help a lot on things, and with as much straight pipe as possible, the more bends the more backpressure
                    800 I already have a 3"downpipe... and if i decide to use the 70mm (only 6 mm less than 3") the only bend will be over the axle and in to the muffler in the rear end.

                    What about the sound? If the pipes are smaller will there be faster flowspeed? Maybe it will be a more "angry"sound?
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