ACE Air Filter

[lagz33]

Saw on a 2.0 16v ACE that they had put a cone air filter on the end of the first point of entry for air, so well ahead of the actual original air box which normally contains the big filter.
Would this be beneficial??
Im assuming they would have removed the big rectangular filter, correct?
Thanks Guys

[s2driveruk]

you'd hope so but there have been examples posted on here from other forums of some epic fails where they retained the original and put the cone on too

[sam80quattro]

i wouldn't do it, 1 it would like absolutely pants and 2 it it will suck in loads of hot air from the engine, best bet is to cut the front of the airbox of that hides behind the headlight and the plastics, that way the plastics will help keep out hot air, then get a panel filter. i can get a picture if you dont understand what i mean

[s2driveruk]

seconded...

[GazzaG60]

with the ace you can drill the box and leave the standard filter in or use a box replacement lid that attaches a cone to the area around the bottom of the cis flap.

an alternative, that i used was to remove the standard filter and attach a pipe to the end of the airbox air feed and a cone filter on the end of said attached pipe. that pipe can be placed where you can get cold air to the filter.

[lind4hl]

if you place the filter where it would get cold air then it is better imo, but inside the engine compartment - NO! also no filters models that you oil in if you still have the MAF.

[lagz33]

This is what i meant, I think gazza described this method.
Any pics would be wicked to understand working setups.
Might go crazy and drill a big hole in the lower corner of my bumper as i need to change it anyway, so no worries if i mess it up.

[lind4hl]

that setup is _bad_!

[GazzaG60]

look to place the filter low down the front. in the grill area. mine on the s2 is where the aircon would be.

in the pic it shows the polished turd sorry filter. lovely heat soak position. go for a cone filter. put it below where that is at side of headlight. best airflow. not behind light. remove filter from box and fit a pipe to the feed pipe and to filter. cold air from below and a slightly better feed and a nice sound.

the other method with a cone i talked about is a replacement for the bottom of the airbox with a plate that attaches a cone to. works ok but can get heat soaked.

a good filter place is in the inner wing above the arch covers to the front. oil; it well and this is good cold air. was the place that the first of the filters on the G60 when with a 2 filter setup.

[lagz33]

Must be, I know how hot those engines get.
Why does the air have to be cold if its just going into the chamber?

Maybe I should run a tube down to the lower front bumper grill or make a hole in the corner of bumper. Or should i just leave it and keep saving up for my black S2

[lagz33]

Im pretty sure i have a MAF, is lind4hl right in saying a non oiled filter???

Im thinking find some tubing on ebay and jubilee clips. Anybody got some bits of tube that would work well???

[GazzaG60]

having said that it may not be worth it. bang for buck not good there.

a better option would be 2 exhaust cams in there timed correctly. have a read about them. usually needs a tune and maybe a modded WUR. ur quattro ones were often used. send me a pm if you are interested. they are a straight swap.

i also have some schrick solid lifter cams here too. good for extra but really need TB's. crespo cams do a nice solid lifter kit. miles cheaper than schrick.

filters in general give no returns unless you are at a stage where you outflow the airbox.

[lagz33]

See this is what i didnt want to fall into, spending loads of money on a non s2 coupe.
Drinks enough petrol as it is, still got an idle issue need to replace lambda first then its probably my diff press reg.
Problem is my mechanic friend has pissed off to turkey for a month and i left my downpipe and lamba in his garage.

probs about 15 miles to the gallon.

Thanks for ure help guys but think I better have some self control and just spend minimal and wait for an s2.

[Skull]

disconnect the lambda if the fuel consumption is too high. until you replace it, of course.

the consumption of this car with FWD should be about 8L/100km.

[lagz33]

Disconnect it from the engine side ye?
Be patient i dont know alot about cars
I did try this yesterday but found it difficult as there was tubes n stuff in the way, also the tubing for the lambda cable was frayed to bits i think its due to it rubbing on the steering thingy :S
Maybe this is why its possibly faulty

If the lambda sensor adjusts mixture from reading of emissions couldnt i always leave it unplugged till MOT, if not why???
Thanks