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  • Jonnybravo
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Aug 2008
    • 2051
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #31
    Worst case scenario send it to me and I will get my guy to remake it for you, he doesn't claim to be the worlds best but his work is neat and back purged, plus its very fairly priced.

    Manifolds £400 approx
    Downpipes £100 or thereabouts

    Did you have the flanges cut or is there someone who supplies them ?

    I think this is only the 2nd manifold he had made although he had done a few more since I don't have pictures of.

    He's not a company though, just does things to help out when he has time off his baby girl or laying bricks !

    Last edited by Jonnybravo; 29 December 2009, 00:33.

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    • david
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Oct 2008
      • 1268
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #32
      thanks all,but this is for keep whether you like it or not.
      like i said, not pretty but hopefully effective
      [SIGPIC][SIGPIC]/SIGPIC]92 3B pearl white=gone back home to Germany,probably in bits and pieces

      RS2 VOLCANO BLACK] soon to be broken to bits

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      • Jonnybravo
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Aug 2008
        • 2051
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #33
        No problem in trying it, just offering you a solution if you get problems

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        • Puglife
          S2Forum Maniac
          • Jun 2006
          • 731
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #34
          I know it may be the cynic in me, but i wouldnt fit that manifold for safety reasons. A manifold/downpipe undergoes some serious heat changes.... on a piece of pipe that has little to no penetration in the welds this will result in cracking, or worse case, disintegration. It may seem like a shortcut saving you alot of money, but if that downpipe fails, which dare i say it will.... your looking at alot more costs in the resulting engine bay fire.

          By all means i agree people should give things a go, but this is classic case of jumping into a stormy river without a canoe or a lifejacket. Please please get it remade by a welder with the right setup.
          Jay - pug_life85@hotmail.com

          1986 Audi UR quattro - WORK IN PROGRESS
          1981 VW Mk1 Golf - "20v Jim, but not as we know it!"

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          • Jamo
            Retired OG Mod
            • Mar 2004
            • 21750
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #35
            Originally posted by david
            thanks all,but this is for keep whether you like it or not.
            like i said, not pretty but hopefully effective
            I know you may think the criticism may seem harsh but fitting that DP could be dangerous if the welds are not up to scratch and causes an engine fire

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            • pixsaudisex2
              S2Forum Possessed
              • Sep 2004
              • 3110

              #36
              Originally posted by Jamo
              I know you may think the criticism may seem harsh but fitting that DP could be dangerous if the welds are not up to scratch and causes an engine fire
              I think its going a bit far to say it will set fire dont you..More chance of a oil leak from rocker cover making a fire ( correct me if im wrong as you all normally do.)
              Id go for fit see if its all ok. Then get one made up the same, post the pictures on here Saying how good it is and watch everyone start wanting one.lol..

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              • Jamo
                Retired OG Mod
                • Mar 2004
                • 21750
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #37
                Originally posted by pixsaudisex2
                I think its going a bit far to say it will set fire dont you..More chance of a oil leak from rocker cover making a fire ( correct me if im wrong as you all normally do.)
                Id go for fit see if its all ok. Then get one made up the same, post the pictures on here Saying how good it is and watch everyone start wanting one.lol..
                Not at all, or do you not think gasses at 800-950 c temp are not hot enough to cause a fire?

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                • AndyP
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 6049
                  • Country: England

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Puglife
                  By all means i agree people should give things a go, but this is classic case of jumping into a stormy river without a canoe or a lifejacket, or any arms or legs or eyes.
                  EFA:mischeif:
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                  1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                  1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                  1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                  • pixsaudisex2
                    S2Forum Possessed
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 3110

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Jamo
                    Not at all, or do you not think gasses at 800-950 c temp are not hot enough to cause a fire?
                    If there flammable..
                    Just never heard of a leaking down pipe causing a fire..
                    Ok i can see if your car was burning loads of oil etc it would be bad but i have never seen an oven burst into flames when the doors open. to early for this

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                    • Puglife
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Jun 2006
                      • 731
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #40
                      Sorry my point was:
                      Those welds wont withstand the heat cycle, not a case of a leak but more the downpipe falling apart, so essentially a turbo flange with nothing after it would be lethal with a warm engine (if the downpipe lasts the warm up).
                      I'm thinking worse case scenario, not that its a high possibility of a fire but would you like 600-700degree+ gases exiting the turbo directly at the master cylinder and wiring on the O/S chasis...
                      Jay - pug_life85@hotmail.com

                      1986 Audi UR quattro - WORK IN PROGRESS
                      1981 VW Mk1 Golf - "20v Jim, but not as we know it!"

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                      • Jamo
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 21750
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #41
                        Originally posted by pixsaudisex2
                        If there flammable..
                        Just never heard of a leaking down pipe causing a fire..
                        Ok i can see if your car was burning loads of oil etc it would be bad but i have never seen an oven burst into flames when the doors open. to early for this
                        Exhibit A http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0pyGcO_iUU

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                        • Jon441cc
                          S2Forum Fiend
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 2061
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #42
                          Thumbs up for having a go , but why did you not just tac it up, then take it to a pro to do the final welding
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                          • pixsaudisex2
                            S2Forum Possessed
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 3110

                            #43
                            Is this case 2...

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                            Jamo that was a jap car they do that for fun.

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                            • 20Vcqdriver
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 829
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Puglife
                              I know it may be the cynic in me, but i wouldnt fit that manifold for safety reasons. A manifold/downpipe undergoes some serious heat changes.... on a piece of pipe that has little to no penetration in the welds this will result in cracking, or worse case, disintegration. It may seem like a shortcut saving you alot of money, but if that downpipe fails, which dare i say it will.... your looking at alot more costs in the resulting engine bay fire.

                              By all means i agree people should give things a go, but this is classic case of jumping into a stormy river without a canoe or a lifejacket. Please please get it remade by a welder with the right setup.
                              Was going to say the same thing. After a few heat up and cool downs the poor joints could start blowing or at worse break altogether and end up causing an accident or at the very least leaving you stranded at the side of the road. As my Dad used to say do a job once and do it properly, Fit in haste regret at leisure!
                              Nice first attempt as a practice but do not fit it.. please
                              1986 Coupe q - 2281cc 3B, chargecooler, 2.75" exh & downpipe, ported head, water injection, CGR box, modified MD357 turbo, 440cc injectors, high power coil.
                              2004 A4 2.5TDi convertible, re-mapped to 180bhp
                              2011 A5 sportback 3TDi-Backbox delete, remap

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                              • bunyoch
                                S2Forum Enthusiast
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 110
                                • Country: Scotland

                                #45
                                have built things like that long ago -great try but agree ther could be serious conseouences
                                Last edited by bunyoch; 29 December 2009, 16:28. Reason: total change of text
                                02 A3 1.9tdi 130 sport quattro

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