How many ways to gut a CAT ?

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  • S2central.net
    Retired OG Mod
    • Jul 2003
    • 16590
    • Country: Northern Ireland

    #1

    How many ways to gut a CAT ?

    So we all know there are 101 ways to skin a cat...

    But what is the best way to gut the internals of a CATalytic converter ?

    There is little rust on the CATs (presumably stainless factory items) so I presume its just a matter of cutting the top half off, removing the internals (wiv a hammer) and then welding it closed again.

    I can legally decat the V6 and I'd like to do this on a shoestring if possible... should release a few more ponies as well.
    Paul Nugent
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  • Rusty
    Super Moderator
    • Jun 2004
    • 18953
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Get some pipe and borrow a welder, got to be better than having 2 chambers to mess up the flow.
    Cheers'en, AndyC
    1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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    • Fat Audi 80
      Super Moderator
      • Jan 2004
      • 10547
      • Country: England

      #3
      If you can "see" inside, I would try a cold chisel and a hammer. The honeycomb in my hold ones was practically falling out.

      Dest had my old ones, he will tell you...

      Cheers,

      Steve.
      The Perfectionist
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      • GazzaG60
        S2Forum Freak
        • Mar 2007
        • 4133
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        if its rattly then mash it out. if not try drilling into it. should break up.

        maybe fill the drilled hole with water and freeze it. pretty easy at the moment may manage some freeze-thaw action.

        or get a cutter the size of the internal diameter and cut it out and slide a tube in.

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        • s2avant
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Jul 2003
          • 2426

          #5
          Jason has just decatted the V8 when he serviced the gearbox. Well worth it. He used pipe to replace the cats.

          The shoestring way would be as Steve says. Hammer and chisel. Even if you cant see all the way through you should be able to smash up the honeycomb from either end then tip it out.

          Ben
          the best intentions are fraught with disappointment - gil grissom

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          • dest
            S2Forum Freak
            • Feb 2006
            • 4287
            • Country: England

            #6
            No need to open it up, just use a long thin old screwdriver or similar with a hammer!
            All you need to do is literally break up the honeycomb into small enough bits to get it out.
            Obviously it goes without saying to avoid breathing any of the dust/particles...

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            • benntenn67
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Jun 2009
              • 859
              • Country: England

              #7
              Hi , isn't a cat in full working order needed to pass the MOT test ?
              Audi S2 Coupe 1995
              VW Passat GL5 (hatch) 1986
              VW Passat GL 1.8 (saloon) 1986
              Carrera Subway 8

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              • andy10v
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Mar 2009
                • 5996
                • Country: Scotland

                #8
                If you just hammer out the inside you end up with a big empty box, creates turbulence, not good for flow and sounds funny.

                I would cut the flanges off, bolt them onto the exhaust, tack in a straight pipe, then remove and weld up, you then have bolt in de cat pipes with good flow.

                If you want an stealth de cat i guess you could sleeve the cats.

                No need for a cat pre 92, certain month can't remember which.
                Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                Sold ABY-stock

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                • Kieron20V
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 1505
                  • Home: England Current: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Not if it was registered before July '92 it isnt.
                  1994 URS4 Avant RS2+

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                  • benntenn67
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 859
                    • Country: England

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kieron20V
                    Not if it was registered before July '92 it isnt.
                    but mine is Aug 95 - so i have to keep the cat and it has to work ?
                    Audi S2 Coupe 1995
                    VW Passat GL5 (hatch) 1986
                    VW Passat GL 1.8 (saloon) 1986
                    Carrera Subway 8

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                    • s2driveruk
                      Super Moderator
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 12696
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      Paul, cats sell so i'll get them off, cleaned up and listed on the bay and then just get some proper decat pipes made up personally, would be cheap to do and you get the right thing on the car first time.
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                      • S2central.net
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 16590
                        • Country: Northern Ireland

                        #12
                        Hadn't thought of selling them right enough... but they heavy. Liking the big screwdriver idea for a cheap bodge, but then the turbulence could be an issue with empty CATs... suppose I should do it right and find a man that can weld in a couple of suitable straight pipes - is not like I am in a hurry as the engine build will take me eons.
                        Paul Nugent
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                        Administrator http://S2forum.com

                        1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                        2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                        2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                        Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

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                        • spink
                          S2Forum Freak
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 4382
                          • Country: England

                          #13
                          Presuming you havn't already had a look inside them there's a big possibility that the contents of the cats have already disintegrated and fallen out,seen this on 2x '93 V6 coupes lately.

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                          • S2central.net
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 16590
                            • Country: Northern Ireland

                            #14
                            Ain't looked yet Spink, but they sure aint rattling...
                            Paul Nugent
                            Webmaster http://S2central.net
                            Administrator http://S2forum.com

                            1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                            2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                            2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                            Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                            There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                            • martinjs
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 3205
                              • Country: England

                              #15
                              I would avoid gutting them tbh, i did it to my 2.6 80Q, cut them open then welded them up and it sounded terrible, resonated really bad.

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