3" downpipe to 2" exhaust stupid idea?

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  • sam80quattro
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Oct 2006
    • 1496
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    3" downpipe to 2" exhaust stupid idea?

    after putting the 1.8t into my b3 90q ive had a 3" downpipe made and bought a reducer thinking the original exhaust was 2.5" only to find it was 2". will 2" flow enough for 300bhp
    its a nicely tig welded stainless system and a shame to get rid of it but if it wont flow then its got to go.
    my other option due to lackof funds would be to use a 7a exhaust as there 2.5" aren't they????
  • driftin jo
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Sep 2007
    • 2222
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    NO,it's got to go , just not big enough , even if it only cost you say 20 HP your egt would go way high and you would kill your motor, not worth the risk even trying it . A friend of a friend did this years ago just until he could get time to get a full exhaust made , drove it hard for 3 weeks then the head came off one of his exhaust valves and went through the piston , totally destroyed the motor.

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    • sam80quattro
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Oct 2006
      • 1496
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      thought that might of been the answer.
      2.5" will be acceptable though???

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      • quattrostyle
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Oct 2006
        • 6229
        • Country: Netherlands

        #4
        Originally posted by sam80quattro
        2.5" will be acceptable though???
        I'd say yes.

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        • driftin jo
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          • Sep 2007
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          #5
          Yes it will be ok , you have to remember 2.5" dia has 4.9" cross sectional area, 2.0" dia has only 3.14" cross sectional area, so as you can see it has a lot more flow capability .
          That said go for 3" if you can as if you tune it more later with a bigger turbo you won't need to upgrade and I cant see it costing you much more .
          :

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          • sam80quattro
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Oct 2006
            • 1496
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            has anyone successfully put a s2 coupe exhaust onto a b3 80/90 quattro? mainly from under the handbrake lever back over???

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            • GazzaG60
              S2Forum Freak
              • Mar 2007
              • 4133
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              which bit of the system is 2".

              if its the back box. yes just about big enough.

              2.5 will do over 300 but will be building back pressure and heat.

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              • sam80quattro
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Oct 2006
                • 1496
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                its from were the cat would be back over

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                • GazzaG60
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                  • Mar 2007
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                  #9
                  250hp then

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                  • sam80quattro
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 1496
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    im sure i could live with that untill i find something more suited.

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                    • driftin jo
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                      • Sep 2007
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                      #11
                      You seem to be experiencing goldfish memory syndrome

                      Read post #2 again !

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                      • Paul McCleary
                        S2Forum Enthusiast
                        • Mar 2009
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by driftin jo

                        Read post #2 again !
                        What he said! My little 1.8T A4 had a 3" downpipe from the K03 to a 2" Stainless system when I got it. The EGT's at full load were very high and mechanical failure was on the horizon. With a 3" system, the EGT's were much lower and the car felt like it could breathe again. This was at a measly 250bhp!
                        A 2.5" system will do the job, but a 3" system would be future proof for similar money.

                        Paul.

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                        • GazzaG60
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                          • Mar 2007
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                          #13
                          i still belive that 2" will do 250 hp with a bigger downpipe. also no cat helps get them out faster. whats a 2.5" flow with a cat for instance. and depending on cat type. put it this way a 200cell 3" cat in a reasonable size is 300hp. thats cat restriction.

                          ive seen close to 400hp on subaru with 2.5. no cats.

                          its in the tuning.

                          how bigs the exhaust flange on a k03? thats a good indicator.

                          whats very high egt.

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                          • M_GORDON
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                            • Oct 2008
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                            #14
                            Hi, I have SuperSprint DP in 70mm and at last the OEM mufflers with 65mm
                            And it goes fine.
                            photobucket SUCKS
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                            • driftin jo
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 2222
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by GazzaG60
                              i still belive that 2" will do 250 hp with a bigger downpipe. also no cat helps get them out faster. whats a 2.5" flow with a cat for instance. and depending on cat type. put it this way a 200cell 3" cat in a reasonable size is 300hp. thats cat restriction.

                              ive seen close to 400hp on subaru with 2.5. no cats.

                              its in the tuning.

                              how bigs the exhaust flange on a k03? thats a good indicator.

                              whats very high egt.

                              A 2" system will flow enough for 250 HP granted, on a normally aspirated engine I wouldn't worry about it at all, the point is this turbo motor and is tuned to produce 300 HP not 250 .
                              If the motor was only tuned make 250hp it would not be a worry but still not great .
                              If you put a 2" system on this the motor it is still trying to make 300hp and that's not good at all.

                              As for the Subaru , as I said on an earlier post a 2.5" dia has 4.9" cross sectional area, 2.0" dia has only 3.14" cross sectional area , so the 2.5" has almost 1.6 times the flow capability and guess what
                              250 x 1.6 = 400 , so there you go you can get a Subaru to nearly 400hp with a 2.5" pipe .
                              The question would then be how long would your Subaru last at full throttle with a 2.5" exhaust compared to the same set-up with a 3" . I wouldn't want to be making 400hp with any turbo motor on a 2.5" exhaust.

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