2 camber carbon IM prototype

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  • tomye1978
    S2Forum Hobbyist
    • Oct 2009
    • 11
    • Country: Germany

    #1

    2 camber carbon IM prototype

    Hello,
    will give you some informations about our new project. We will built a 2 camber IM with very high performance for 500hp and more. Not really a easy thing and a lot of work.

    http://audidrivers.24max.de/forum/vi...=4327&start=10 ( pictures scroll down please )

    the first prototype was built and testet against an AAN IM. We get a flow-bench next month and will optimise it.

    Here is a video you can see 5th gear begining with 2000U/min
    left side is AAN right side is prototype. Only the IM was changed.




    Thomas
  • gnutz2
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Aug 2006
    • 928
    • Country: England

    #2
    Very nice idea but i cant see any pics of it in your link.

    I understand its a carbon fibre dual plenum manifold? is the whole thing carbon or are the runners aluminium?

    It seems to do a good job of spooling the turbo quicker, how does it do this?
    The ONLY S2 Golf!
    http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19402
    10.42@138mph
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0wnkkOfFpXg

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    • tomye1978
      S2Forum Hobbyist
      • Oct 2009
      • 11
      • Country: Germany

      #3
      here you can see.
      yes the turbo become spooling arround 400U/min quicker. It is the construction of the intake tubes that helps to get more power when the turbo isn't sooling.

      Thomas
      Attached Files

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      • Error404
        Super Moderator
        • Mar 2007
        • 19789
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        very cool. how many zeroes?
        Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
        Indigo ABY coupé
        Imola B6 S4 Avant

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        • s2_bo
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Oct 2005
          • 6067
          • Home: United Kingdom Current: France

          #5
          Loks very nice, what price range?
          91 S2 coupé - RIP
          98 S8 - Luxury barge

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          • tomye1978
            S2Forum Hobbyist
            • Oct 2009
            • 11
            • Country: Germany

            #6
            Oh sorry
            it looks like we built for sale. This is an privat project because we didn't found a IM that is designed without compromises and increase performance of our engine.

            Thomas

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            • gnutz2
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Aug 2006
              • 928
              • Country: England

              #7
              How did you fix the carbon plenum to the back plate and also the stacks?
              The ONLY S2 Golf!
              http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19402
              10.42@138mph
              https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0wnkkOfFpXg

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              • A80Avant
                S2Forum Obsessed
                • Sep 2005
                • 10873
                • Country: Greece

                #8
                looks amazing

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                • JP
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 1858
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Nice manifold Only thing I would have changed being a dual plenumb design is the use of flow straighteners between the two plenumbs. From experience all the dual plenumb chamber designs without flow straighteners suffer from uneven flow distribution between the outer and inner runners due to the turbulance introduced on chamber transition.

                  The improved power delivery will come from the internal trumpet design as a nice radius helps stabilise airflow at lower rpm giving improved of boost performance giving the onset of power earlier in the rpm range and greater throughout. I've seen this many a time on S4 and RS4 manifold internal trumpets where careful radiusing of the original casting gives for a much improved low and mid range along with improved power throughout the rev range.
                  UrS6 Stroker + HTA3586 =

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                  • tomye1978
                    S2Forum Hobbyist
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 11
                    • Country: Germany

                    #10
                    Thanks for your help. We built this first version without any aero helpers like straighteners. After we have made the flow bench we know where we have to optimise with thise things.

                    Thomas

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                    • Bram
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 2582
                      • Country: Netherlands

                      #11
                      Originally posted by tomye1978
                      Oh sorry
                      it looks like we built for sale. This is an privat project because we didn't found a IM that is designed without compromises and increase performance of our engine.

                      Thomas
                      How is your design better than a dual plenum from Pro-Mo or Furans?

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                      • quattro84
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 947
                        • Country: Netherlands

                        #12
                        Or Lehmann...

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