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  • mcandmar
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Apr 2004
    • 5118
    • Country: Ireland

    #1

    Looking for MTM Intake Manifold Pics

    Has anybody got any pics of an MTM inlet manifold fitted, looking for details on the idle valve plumbing and PAS pump mounting.

    Thanks,

    Mark
    91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
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  • Wheeljack
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    • May 2005
    • 219
    • Country: United States

    #2
    This is Martin's MTM setup on his 20VT URQ Project.



    So.. the ax has fallen and last November I was able to pick up not one, not two but three Ur-q for the price of one. Here is the original ad: "I have three Ur Qattros on the blocks... 1. 1981 Mars Red (yes an 81 from Europe) that is a rust free shell but has 90% of the parts brought in as a...

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    • 4WheelDrifter
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Oct 2004
      • 5773
      • Country: Devon

      #3
      Mine is the same as above. Although the ISV isn't plumbed in yet.
      I can get pictures over the weekend if you still need them.
      SS

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      • mcandmar
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Apr 2004
        • 5118
        • Country: Ireland

        #4
        That is an interesting solution, all of it original parts by the look of it. Only problem i see is its sitting right where the PAS pump is going to go. I guess he has relocated it being a UR.

        @4WD would be very interested to see how you have worked through this. I did a mock up today and found a few issues i need to work out, PAS pump mount and adjustment bracket both hit the manifold, wiring needs extended for TPS, ISV, and IAT, and a longer throttle cable is needed.

        The car will also have a Wagner IC and crossmember but the intake hose supplied has the ISV take off on the other side by the radiator. I can see lots of faffing about with custom pipework to make this work. Its really the ISV placement has me stumped, it wants to sit right where the PAS pump goes, and will have nothing to support it other than the hoses attached to it. Curious to know how MTM do it..
        91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
        93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
        94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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        • vader s2
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          • Mar 2008
          • 141
          • Country: Ireland

          #5
          Originally posted by mcandmar
          That is an interesting solution, all of it original parts by the look of it. Only problem i see is its sitting right where the PAS pump is going to go. I guess he has relocated it being a UR.

          @4WD would be very interested to see how you have worked through this. I did a mock up today and found a few issues i need to work out, PAS pump mount and adjustment bracket both hit the manifold, wiring needs extended for TPS, ISV, and IAT, and a longer throttle cable is needed.

          The car will also have a Wagner IC and crossmember but the intake hose supplied has the ISV take off on the other side by the radiator. I can see lots of faffing about with custom pipework to make this work. Its really the ISV placement has me stumped, it wants to sit right where the PAS pump goes, and will have nothing to support it other than the hoses attached to it. Curious to know how MTM do it..



          hi mark would looking at mine help you.?


          paul

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          • mcandmar
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            • Apr 2004
            • 5118
            • Country: Ireland

            #6
            It may do Paul but isnt yours a Wagner intake manifold? I've been meaning to ring you about the longer throttle cable, can you remember what car it came off?
            91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
            93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
            94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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            • vader s2
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              • Mar 2008
              • 141
              • Country: Ireland

              #7
              Originally posted by mcandmar
              It may do Paul but isnt yours a Wagner intake manifold? I've been meaning to ring you about the longer throttle cable, can you remember what car it came off?

              yes mine is a wagner intake manifold. and my throttle came from?(dont laugh)
              a daewoo

              paul

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              • mcandmar
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                • Apr 2004
                • 5118
                • Country: Ireland

                #8
                Well there goes that idea, from what i've read Daewoo went the way of the dodo. Any idea what model, bet there all sitting in scrap yards now :mischeif:
                91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
                93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
                94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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                • Keeper of The Kitten
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 2317
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  Daewoo are badged as Chevrolet now aren't they? Perhaps there's a model in that line which still uses the same part number of throttle cable?
                  Martin Cutting

                  aka Keeper of "The Teutonic Kitten"

                  It's not better than sex, but it runs it a close second.

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                  • Wolfgang
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                    • Mar 2006
                    • 250
                    • Country: Germany

                    #10
                    for more pics:



                    for a lot of other IM´s take a look at: www.audis2.de then on the left side on "Technic-Fotos" and then you´ll have many galleries with EM´s, IM´s and a lot of other stuff.

                    best regards,

                    wolfgang
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                    S2 Sedan
                    S6 20V Avant
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                    • 4WheelDrifter
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 5773
                      • Country: Devon

                      #11
                      Here is mine so far:



                      I see what you're getting at now, Mark.
                      I've also been puzzling over this one. I'm in the process of getting a crossmember made up, so I haven't got around to doing a full mock up yet. I'm also running this manifold with a Wagner IC. I know it all fits, as Tom C borrowed the manifold and fitted it to his S2 years ago.

                      I was wondering if it is possible to run the ISV in reverse. The 90° bend for it is held in with a grub screw and can be rotated.


                      The wiring extensions were no problem. I've had to buy a load of new cable and terminal pins from VWP anyway. I just haven't finalised the route of some of the cables.


                      Another thing I had to do was file of a corner of the hydraulic pump bracket, to give about an extra 10mm of belt adjustment.

                      SS

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                      • vader s2
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                        • Mar 2008
                        • 141
                        • Country: Ireland

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mcandmar
                        Well there goes that idea, from what i've read Daewoo went the way of the dodo. Any idea what model, bet there all sitting in scrap yards now :mischeif:


                        mark i believe it was from a daewoo lanos or lantra . and i got mine from a scrap
                        yard. i was advised to use one from a UR but i did not have one to hand. so i just
                        tryed what ever would fit. and the daewoo did. im sure there are others that would
                        fit also.



                        paul

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                        • 4WheelDrifter
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                          • Oct 2004
                          • 5773
                          • Country: Devon

                          #13
                          I used an OEM throttle cable and got an RAC man to lengthen the inner cable.
                          SS

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                          • terrybullwon
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                            • Mar 2006
                            • 8782
                            • Country: England

                            #14
                            Originally posted by mcandmar
                            It may do Paul but isnt yours a Wagner intake manifold? I've been meaning to ring you about the longer throttle cable, can you remember what car it came off?
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                            Works like a charm
                            Chef

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                            • ralleyquattro
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                              • Oct 2007
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by mcandmar
                              That is an interesting solution, all of it original parts by the look of it. Only problem i see is its sitting right where the PAS pump is going to go. I guess he has relocated it being a UR.
                              Yes, I need to relocate the P/S pump down below to make more space for the intercooler.



                              There is space for the belt with this puppy in the way.

                              Last edited by ralleyquattro; 25 February 2013, 01:22.
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