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  • euro_urs4
    S2Forum Addict
    • Nov 2008
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    #1

    exhaust opinion (4in...4in to 5 in..?)

    hey guys running a holset super 40 turbo on my car and have a 3 in DP to a 3 in exhaust, and, see its choking the motor up a bit, and looking to redo the exhaust with a 4in DP and 4 in exhaust, just need your opinion on this, should i run a 4 in DP and 4in exhaust all the way back? or should i do a 4in DP then going to a 5in exhaust all the way back?....benefits and opinions on both? (also correct me if im wrong but the 3in all the way back isnt enough flow for this large turbo)?
  • Jamo
    Retired OG Mod
    • Mar 2004
    • 21750
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Google rs2002 running that setup with 3.5 inch dp just fine

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    • urs4guy
      S2Forum Enthusiast
      • Dec 2007
      • 192
      • Country: United States

      #3
      I'm running 3" out of my Comp CT43-6768 BR and 3.5" DP with 3.5" to the rear where it transitions into dual 3.5" and then right down to dual 3". Works good enough for 755hp at the wheels with more on the table.

      Hap, wit dakine exhaustion tales not from Evahboost, Maguire

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      • willg54
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        • Jun 2009
        • 2055
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        a 3" exhaust shouldnt be choking up the engines we run...no matter what power we're running really. 3" is used on alot more powerful, heavy breathing boosted bengines just fine!
        1996 Audi S2 - 295bhp and 326lb/ft - Complete Rebuild Project

        1994 Audi 80 - 2.0 8v (slow but reliable!)

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        • terrybullwon
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Mar 2006
          • 8782
          • Country: England

          #5
          Originally posted by willg54
          a 3" exhaust shouldnt be choking up the engines we run...no matter what power we're running really. 3" is used on alot more powerful, heavy breathing boosted bengines just fine!
          Your find that above 500hp people start going larger than 3" Most Scandinavians have 4" i have a 4" and a separate waste gate pipe
          Chef

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          • Jamo
            Retired OG Mod
            • Mar 2004
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            #6
            A 3@ will choke these engines if you have boxes if you have none then it would be fine but a bit unrealistic?

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            • driftin jo
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              • Sep 2007
              • 2222
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              #7
              I have posted this more than once before but here you go.



              This chart is one I made years ago and was taken from S.E.A testing on an engine dyno, not theory.

              Pipe bore size. BHP obtainable without
              inch / mm pipe causing restriction.

              2 / 50.8 --- 185

              2.25 /57.15 --- 235

              2.5 / 63.5 --- 285

              2.75 / 69.85 --- 350

              3 / 76.2 --- 415

              3.25 / 82.55 --- 490

              3.5 / 88.9 --- 565

              3.75 / 95.25 --- 650

              The above figures are based on petrol engines running a full length exhaust system 4 metres / 13 feet in length with free flowing silencers . Much more HP is obviously attainable from each size of pipe but beyond these figures the exhaust is increasingly restrictive .

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              • Jamo
                Retired OG Mod
                • Mar 2004
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                #8
                I wouldn't agree with the above too generic

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                • driftin jo
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                  • Sep 2007
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jamo
                  I wouldn't agree with the above too generic
                  Ha, the fact that don't agree with it proves nothing other than you ignorance.
                  It really doesn't matter that you don't agree with it as as I said it isn't theory its
                  actual testing.
                  It doesn't matter if you use a turbocharged engine or NA for this purpose as was
                  stated when the testing was done.
                  The stated figures are when the pipe dia is at the point of causing a restriction in flow that would START to reduce power output, this doesn't mean you cant push 50% more through any given dia of pipe just that beyond the sizes quoted you are losing potential output.

                  The post was for ref purposes and yours was for your own ******** disagree with everything
                  mentality, when you don't have anything useful to add why do you always feel the need to try and
                  put other peoples info down, ego problem ?

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                  • david
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 1268
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    easy guy's it xmas,let not fight over differen't opinions.
                    merry xmas and a happy new year.
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                    RS2 VOLCANO BLACK] soon to be broken to bits

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                    • Jamo
                      Retired OG Mod
                      • Mar 2004
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                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Bad day? Lol over a post that said its too generic in real world tuning the real restriction that is considered is back pressure
                      Those figures whilst born from your testing never would apply to real world applications for instance 3" to 415 bhp

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                      • driftin jo
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 2222
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jamo
                        Bad day? Lol over a post that said its too generic in real world tuning the real restriction that is considered is back pressure
                        Those figures whilst born from your testing never would apply to real world applications for instance 3" to 415 bhp

                        Not MY testing ! It was done by a group of people from the society of automotive engineers.

                        face palm, how do you thing the the restriction was measured.

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                        • driftin jo
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                          • Sep 2007
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                          #13
                          Buy the way, can you not read ?
                          Were does it say 3 inch to 415 HP, what it says is that beyond this point the 3 inch STARTS to restrict power, it also says more but if you don't read it properly that's not my fault.

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                          • QuattroFever
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • May 2006
                            • 1360
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                            #14
                            At what temperature and by how much is engine/setup dependant.
                            Volcano ABY coupe

                            Ant

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                            • driftin jo
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 2222
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by QuattroFever
                              At what temperature and by how much is engine/setup dependant.
                              Both are irrelevant, your set up, how rich you are running, timing etc are what gives you your potential HP, what this means is if your given set up, mixture, timing, etc etc gives you 350hp and you are using a 2.5 inch pipe then just changing the pipe to a 3 inch will give you more power, simples.

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