Stock intake and Wagner manifold with race head

[Jim_Coupe]

Hi,

Im a bit curius about a setup.

I have a friend who has bought the 034motorsport machined 7A head with extra everything.
larger valves, ported, retainers, springs and light weight pucks..

He is going to use this head with stock intakemanifold setup and wagner-tuning exhaust manifold. My first thought.. will this setup even breathe enough to get something out of this expensive head setup?

I am thinking coldside intake and an tubular manifold to makethis head breate..???

[Carfreak]

The best thing to do is to make a flow bench with the intake and exhaust mounted on!

A good idea is to use Cp-S handmade intake - expensive but maybe worth it!

[Jamo]

Stock intake will do 600 bhp +

[Carfreak]

Stock intake will do 600 bhp +

WOW!! Even on AAN with the service holes ?

[Jim_Coupe]

Hp numbers tells me nothing im after driveability and response.. hmm dunno why ppl always stare them selvs bilnd on hp ?

[Rocco]

If you want response and drivability then fit stock turbo and boost it to 1.65

[Jim_Coupe]

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[Jamo]

Hp numbers tells me nothing im after driveability and response.. hmm dunno why ppl always stare them selvs bilnd on hp ?

Well if you dont state what your looking for then what do you expect, anyhow i'm done here

[Jim_Coupe]

Read my post.. im asking if this is a good setup if u want to get something out of this very expensive machined head... i mean will this head breathe?
The reason why im posting this is that I wnat to convince a friend not to just buy a very expensive head and not do anything about the intake and exhaust.. I offered him help with installing a tubular manifold an re-weld his DP an fix a reversed intake manifold.. but he claims that it wont make any diffrence.. So im just abit hmm dizzy in my head and asking my self.. why buy a super nice I5 head and dont do anyting else? LoL... You will get alot of other nice part on an Audi S2 for 4300$ i mean duuuuh

[Jamo]

I have a friend who has bought the 034motorsport machined 7A head with extra everything.
larger valves, ported, retainers, springs and light weight pucks..

He is going to use this head with stock intakemanifold setup and wagner-tuning exhaust manifold. My first thought.. will this setup even breathe enough to get something out of this expensive head setup?

I am thinking coldside intake and an tubular manifold to makethis head breate..???

You say does it breathe enough, my reply is yes it will do over 600 bhp. If you asked about response you'd get a different reply in that you want a reverse manifold. Or am I missing wher you've stated this?

[Jim_Coupe]

Okey.. but will you get something out of the money if not use tubular manifold and revesed intake ?

[JariP]

If you want response and drivability then change the original intake to something better like wagner.

[Jim_Coupe]

Okey.. then this setup can be an OK setup then.. I was abit worried for EGT problems so he dont burn his valves.. but as i can read in this thread it seems that Wagners manifold has a good flow.. http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31648
So probably with GTX3071 that he has he will get even better respons and spoolup..

[Thuppu]

WOW!! Even on AAN with the service holes ?

Well, have been told the AAN intake is the best of the Audi stock ones.

[JP]

All singing and dancing head which flows 10% more on intake and 20% more on exhaust than that from 034. Port matched AAN intake polished wagner evo cast mani with gt3079r k26 hybrid = 574ps with amazing of boost driveability on a 2.5 and absolutely livid on boost. Boost pipes are 63mm pre intercooler 76mm post. Haven't come across anything locally that touches it other than my mates 800ps rs4.

Previously with 2.2 and gt3076 k26 hybrid 525ps with same driveability. With 63mm boost pipes throughout.

Keep stock aan intake for quicker turbo response as it has a smaller plenumb chamber the engine will see the turbo floe quicker especially if using 63mm hoses.

By putting a high flowing head on you improve the ve of the engine making it more driveable with a more progressive power delivery and a greater ability to carry on pulling to redline.

Make everything else better too and you don't necessarily improve mid range but will reap the gains higher up in the rev range with improved power gains.