Wagner intake manifold questions

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Pat D
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Dec 2011
    • 748
    • Country: Australia

    #1

    Wagner intake manifold questions

    I'm waiting for mine to arrive in the mail, in the meantime there are a few things that I'm not sure of.

    Does the stock fuel rail bolt up? I will be using EV14's. Would it be beneficial to go with an after market fuel rail?

    Is there a suitable throttle cable availble that doesn't require mods for right hand drive S2's? I think there is a thread somewhere about a cable but it still required some tweaking to fit.
    ABY S2 stroker (work in progress)

    B5 1.8T quattro

    B4 2.3 (decommissioned)
  • europeanme
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Oct 2005
    • 3817
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    time for some searches, Pat.....I'm sure these questions have been answered before

    the throttle cable is the main reason why I've stuck with a stock inlet....oh and not having that sort of "spare" cash!!...

    Comment

    • Henkjan
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Aug 2003
      • 1705
      • Country: Netherlands

      #3
      yes, standard fuel rail will fit nicely

      Comment

      • Jamo
        Retired OG Mod
        • Mar 2004
        • 21750
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        hate to say it but search, this is a sticky thread by me http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35310
        Eh europeanme? the throttle cable is a piece of p*ss, get it extend local,ly or use the sleeve insert, see post 58 of the above thread

        Comment

        • SE_30
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Apr 2010
          • 1114
          • Home: England Current: Israel

          #5
          Originally posted by Pat D
          I'm waiting for mine to arrive in the mail.
          Lucky man when I placed my order there was 30 in stock. Payed the money and then Mark had to give me the bad news that there was a error with the computer stocking system. So I have to wait another 4 weeks for a new batch to arrive..

          I'm also running EV14's after advice from Jamo
          Stuart
          B2 90 quattro with boost

          Comment

          • Pat D
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Dec 2011
            • 748
            • Country: Australia

            #6
            Originally posted by SE_30
            Lucky man when I placed my order there was 30 in stock. Payed the money and then Mark had to give me the bad news that there was a error with the computer stocking system. So I have to wait another 4 weeks for a new batch to arrive..

            I'm also running EV14's after advice from Jamo
            I rang Carsten up with a few questions and he said they're on backorder, so a few weeks from now. I'm in no rush since my bottom end is still being frankensteined

            Cheers for the links guys. On another note, I couldn't find any info on fuel rails. I understand that factory rail fits on the Wagner manifold, but would it be wise to upgrade to an aftermarket type if aiming for 700-800hp?

            I'm away at work and haven't had a chance to look at the factory rail to compare. I'm guessing apart from having the option for various sized a/n fittings, they would have a larger internal bore to perhaps increase flow capacity?
            ABY S2 stroker (work in progress)

            B5 1.8T quattro

            B4 2.3 (decommissioned)

            Comment

            • Jamo
              Retired OG Mod
              • Mar 2004
              • 21750
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              The only reason to change the fuel rail is if you are going to run an aftermarket FPR which if you are aiming for 700-800 you WILL need to do, so yes change it

              Comment

              • Pat D
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Dec 2011
                • 748
                • Country: Australia

                #8
                I thought the factory pressure was 4 bar? I can't remember, might be 3, but I'm sure there are different fixed pressure regulators that fit the factory rail? Was this the reason for mentioning changing to an aftermarket regulator?
                The only thing I want to add is an electric pressure sender so I can mount an internal pressure gauge.
                ABY S2 stroker (work in progress)

                B5 1.8T quattro

                B4 2.3 (decommissioned)

                Comment

                • prj
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 6308
                  • Country: Estonia

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jamo
                  The only reason to change the fuel rail is if you are going to run an aftermarket FPR which if you are aiming for 700-800 you WILL need to do, so yes change it
                  Please elaborate.

                  BTDT with stock FPR stock rail at 700hp.
                  http://tuner.ee - http://www.facebook.com/tuner.ee

                  Comment

                  • Jamo
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 21750
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    So? He's bought a dual 044 fuel pump setup if you read his thread if hes going through this expense he should do it properly

                    Comment

                    • europeanme
                      S2Forum Possessed
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 3817
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jamo
                      Eh europeanme? the throttle cable is a piece of p*ss, get it extend local,ly or use the sleeve insert, see post 58 of the above thread
                      tbh jamo it was more the cash than anything else but after talking to a few people that have BTDT it just put the idea to rest for me....

                      Mike

                      Comment

                      • prj
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 6308
                        • Country: Estonia

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jamo
                        So? He's bought a dual 044 fuel pump setup if you read his thread if hes going through this expense he should do it properly
                        Not arguing that, but one 044 will make 700+ with relay (but not 800), and for one 044 you do not need to change the fuel rail or the fuel lines.

                        You said for "700-800" you have to change the fuel rail. I say you don't for 700.
                        For 800 you need to not only change the rail, you need dual pumps, surge tank and bigger fuel lines.
                        http://tuner.ee - http://www.facebook.com/tuner.ee

                        Comment

                        • Lupo911
                          S2Forum Addict
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 312
                          • Country: Germany

                          #13
                          we just got 30 from our Casting Factory. Looks like we have them coated till tuesday and then machined... so 2 more weeks aprox...

                          Comment

                          • GazzaG60
                            S2Forum Freak
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 4133
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            its a good manifold.

                            rail fits,
                            other bits fit.

                            needed is extension to throttle cable. i used some cisco rack brackets to remount the cable
                            wiring extensions needed.

                            cruise not a direct fit.

                            its not really hassle tbh. costs is always a factor thats understood.

                            to give the solution its due id save my pennies for the lot. IC x member, inlet, pipes, exhaust manifold. tbh no point having this without the rest of the "power hike" bits

                            wagner products really deserve to be appropriately matched up.

                            Comment

                            • SE_30
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 1114
                              • Home: England Current: Israel

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Lupo911
                              we just got 30 from our Casting Factory. Looks like we have them coated till tuesday and then machined... so 2 more weeks aprox...
                              Any approximate date when these will reach Mark in the UK?

                              Cheers
                              Stuart
                              B2 90 quattro with boost

                              Comment

                              Working...