MAF Question.

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • quattroboy
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Mar 2004
    • 164
    • Home: United Kingdom

    #1

    MAF Question.

    Hi Guys,

    Quick question.

    Can a MAF Sensor cause High Idling Problems?

    I have a new ISV but keep getting Code 2231/VAG COM 0533.

    My Vacuum Reading at idle is 17" - 18" HG. Is this about right?

    The idle speed with fully hot engine is around 850/900 RPM but I believe that the parameters are based on 750rpm at idle with no load (No Aircon Compressor etc)

    I am going to test my Intake System once I have Lees Pressure Test Kit.

    I have no associated MAF DTC's and the car pulls like a train and overboosts as it should.

    Anybody got any thoughts?

    Cheers

    Dave
    1997 S6 Avant
  • audiman
    S2Forum Freak
    • Jul 2003
    • 4827
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Thats the right idle speed.
    sigpic
    Tom C - www.rcmr.co.uk
    Audi UR Quattro
    Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
    Audi S2 - 07k engine project aiming for 800ps
    Audi B5 RS4 645ps 911nm

    Comment

    • quattroboy
      S2Forum Enthusiast
      • Mar 2004
      • 164
      • Home: United Kingdom

      #3
      Originally posted by audiman
      Thats the right idle speed.
      Uhmm,

      Thanks for the reply Tom.

      So maybe the 2231 is indeed a Vacuum Leak or are those Vac HG readings okay.

      I guess I will know more when I get my hands on the Pressure Test Kit.

      Ta

      Dave
      1997 S6 Avant

      Comment

      • S2central.net
        Retired OG Mod
        • Jul 2003
        • 16590
        • Country: Northern Ireland

        #4
        Idle speed should be 780-820rpm

        Vacuum at idle shoudl be -0.5bar.

        BY the conversions here -
        Online converter for units of stress and pressure. Bar, pascal, PSI, or inch of mercury? Instantly convert any unit to all others.


        It seems you have too much vacuum so perhaps a wee leak alright.


        Paul
        Paul Nugent
        Webmaster http://S2central.net
        Administrator http://S2forum.com

        1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
        2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
        2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

        Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

        There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

        Comment

        • quattroboy
          S2Forum Enthusiast
          • Mar 2004
          • 164
          • Home: United Kingdom

          #5
          Too Much Vacuum!

          Thanks for the info Paul!

          That's a good Conversion site btw!

          Bl**dy Hell, I didn't know that you could have too much Vac.

          I thought that my AAN was idling @ 17"HG and that this was too low..........the MityVac Manual indicates that between 16 & 20 was okay but I think I got 20" in my head as the norm when I connected the MityVac to my.......now don't laugh will you.....3.0 V6 Omega that registers bang on 20"

          Roll on Pressure Testing Kits!!

          If I do have a leak and fix it then hopefully the 2231 will go away but my original question on wether a dodgy MAF Sensor could throw a 2231 was because Gary Bray (Unicomsystems S4 Guy) said his disappeared when he had a (Very Expensive) new MAF fitted.

          The mission continues.

          Thanks for the input thus far.

          Dave

          Originally posted by S2central.net
          Idle speed should be 780-820rpm

          Vacuum at idle shoudl be -0.5bar.

          BY the conversions here -
          Online converter for units of stress and pressure. Bar, pascal, PSI, or inch of mercury? Instantly convert any unit to all others.


          It seems you have too much vacuum so perhaps a wee leak alright.


          Paul
          1997 S6 Avant

          Comment

          • S2central.net
            Retired OG Mod
            • Jul 2003
            • 16590
            • Country: Northern Ireland

            #6
            It could also be a dud MAF... *some* MAF tests are on S2 Central...



            Paul
            Paul Nugent
            Webmaster http://S2central.net
            Administrator http://S2forum.com

            1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
            2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
            2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

            Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

            There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

            Comment

            • Mihnea
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Jul 2003
              • 1288
              • Home: Belgium Current: United Kingdom

              #7
              17" of vacuum at idle is not too bad, 12-ish sounds like a leak.

              too much vacuum would mean too little cam overlap, too high compression or **** knows what, but definitely not a leak...

              Mihnea
              '98 Silver Grey 2.7T S4, dual 2.75" turbo back exhaust with no cats, FMIC, BIG injectors, 10 Bar motorsport fuel pump, modded RS4 turbos, tubular exhaust manifolds, custom intakes, RS4 MAF, Bilstein PSS9, H&R ARBs, 19" BBS CH, custom remap, 511 BHP/505ft-lbs

              www.MRCTuning.com
              info@MRCTuning.com
              Workshop Directions

              Comment

              • S2central.net
                Retired OG Mod
                • Jul 2003
                • 16590
                • Country: Northern Ireland

                #8
                A PCV / breather problem maybe would cause this as well...


                Paul
                Paul Nugent
                Webmaster http://S2central.net
                Administrator http://S2forum.com

                1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

                Comment

                • karlblues2
                  S2Forum Addict
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 402
                  • Home: England Current: Australia

                  #9
                  Originally posted by S2central.net
                  A PCV / breather problem maybe would cause this as well...


                  Paul
                  What's a PCV?????
                  My vacuum often drops to 25-28 HG when backing off. At idle it's around 20? Is this ok?
                  Oct 93 build MY 94 ABY Kingfisher Blue Audi S2 with MD147 turbo :mischeif:u SOLD
                  Audi 90 Quattro 20V 1989 7A
                  Audi TTRS 2010 APR stage 2 +
                  Triumph 675 Street Triple R

                  Comment

                  • Mihnea
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 1288
                    • Home: Belgium Current: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Karl, 25-28" of vacuum on lift-off and 20 at idle sounds like a perfectly leak-free car.
                    The PCV is Positive Crank Ventilation, or breather system.

                    Mihnea
                    '98 Silver Grey 2.7T S4, dual 2.75" turbo back exhaust with no cats, FMIC, BIG injectors, 10 Bar motorsport fuel pump, modded RS4 turbos, tubular exhaust manifolds, custom intakes, RS4 MAF, Bilstein PSS9, H&R ARBs, 19" BBS CH, custom remap, 511 BHP/505ft-lbs

                    www.MRCTuning.com
                    info@MRCTuning.com
                    Workshop Directions

                    Comment

                    • karlblues2
                      S2Forum Addict
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 402
                      • Home: England Current: Australia

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Mihnea
                      Karl, 25-28" of vacuum on lift-off and 20 at idle sounds like a perfectly leak-free car.
                      The PCV is Positive Crank Ventilation, or breather system.

                      Mihnea
                      Thanks Mihnea. I still can't understand why I can only get 15 psi on full boost now. I have checked hoses etc, reconned turbo, and still can't induce 'overboost' up to 19psi as I used to?
                      Anything else that could lose me 3-4psi?
                      Oct 93 build MY 94 ABY Kingfisher Blue Audi S2 with MD147 turbo :mischeif:u SOLD
                      Audi 90 Quattro 20V 1989 7A
                      Audi TTRS 2010 APR stage 2 +
                      Triumph 675 Street Triple R

                      Comment

                      • S2central.net
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 16590
                        • Country: Northern Ireland

                        #12
                        Check your throttle switch is A) mechanically getting to full throttle. and B) when it does that the resistance is correct. Info on S2 Central - technical...

                        Also check your air and coolant temp sensors are in spec.

                        And the ambient pressure sender.

                        WGFV OK ?

                        Paul
                        Paul Nugent
                        Webmaster http://S2central.net
                        Administrator http://S2forum.com

                        1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                        2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                        2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                        Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                        There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

                        Comment

                        Working...