Budget reversed intake manifold

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  • Thuppu
    S2Forum Freak
    • Sep 2010
    • 4115
    • Country: Finland

    #16
    Originally posted by _ShurikeN
    Is it worth leaving standard hollow inside braces in the 3B manifold?

    Like here on Thuppu's image:
    My plenum is fully costom. Used only the 3B intake runners and flange. The braces are for avoid the big plenum to balloon and crack weldings on big boost levels. 2+bar makes quite a lot of force on big area walls.

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    • _ShurikeN
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Mar 2010
      • 733
      • Country: Russian Federation

      #17
      Sure. I just used Your image to show the braces, which I mean. It might have been a little bit unfortunate case.

      The 3B cut picture from motorgeek:



      I just wonder if those braces are worthy on smaller manifold and on smaller boost, because I have seen lots of pictures of custom-made manifolds without those braces, and the builds looked pretty serious.

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      • martinws
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Oct 2008
        • 917
        • Country: Scotland

        #18
        I cut them out of my ABY but mine was a pretty quick bodge job experiment to be fair.Haha.

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        • my2000apb
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          • Jul 2010
          • 637
          • Country: United States

          #19
          Originally posted by _ShurikeN
          Sure. I just used Your image to show the braces, which I mean. It might have been a little bit unfortunate case.

          The 3B cut picture from motorgeek:



          I just wonder if those braces are worthy on smaller manifold and on smaller boost, because I have seen lots of pictures of custom-made manifolds without those braces, and the builds looked pretty serious.
          the 3b ones are not braces but access holes to the flange bolts. they are hollow for long allen wrench not bracing
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          • _ShurikeN
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Mar 2010
            • 733
            • Country: Russian Federation

            #20
            Originally posted by my2000apb
            the 3b ones are not braces but access holes to the flange bolts. they are hollow for long allen wrench not bracing
            Thanks for that info BTW. It could be a fail.

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            • _ShurikeN
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Mar 2010
              • 733
              • Country: Russian Federation

              #21
              Went to garage yesterday. Mocked-up 3B manifold with NM 20V cylinderhead and 3B cap. Did'n see any reason in keeping those access holes in the IM. Flange bolts would be relatively easily accessible.

              Or I'm missing something?
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              • andy10v
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Mar 2009
                • 5996
                • Country: Scotland

                #22
                Plenty of people have changed them without a long allen key, I removed mine without, its just a bit fiddlier/takes longer than with a long allen key through the plenum. Not that you really remove the intake manifold very often, hopefully.
                Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                Sold ABY-stock

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                • SteveH
                  Super Moderator
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 4460
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #23
                  [QUOTE=martinws;774685]My homemade reverse.
                  Had to make the 90degree elbow and moved PS pump to opposite side.

                  What did you make for the PS pump on the other side, do you have any pics?

                  I guess you would need to make up new PS pipes as the originals aren't very flexible and probably wont reach the other side of the engine.
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                  • martinws
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 917
                    • Country: Scotland

                    #24
                    Originally posted by SteveH
                    What did you make for the PS pump on the other side, do you have any pics?

                    I guess you would need to make up new PS pipes as the originals aren't very flexible and probably wont reach the other side of the engine.

                    Here are a few pics














                    I used a 3B alternator belt to fit this. I think i also used bits of an ABY AC bracket mated to the PAS pump and bracket from a B3 coupe, to be honest i just went through my box of bits and figured it out. I used a KV thermo housing and front hose to get more room, Im still running a typ85 radiator with no Aux rad. I had to get new lines made which were under £20 from hydraulics place down the road. Had to heat sleeve them as DP was too close for my liking.

                    My intercooler is right behind my front grill now as well so the pipework is only about 2ft now compared to at least 6ft with my old setup.

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                    • martinws
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 917
                      • Country: Scotland

                      #25
                      Just been thinking about reverse inlet again after PMing a member about mine.

                      Sitech Racing up in Scotland have a custom inlet for the focus RS That could be used with a custom adapter to fit our engines perhaps!







                      Just a thought.
                      Last edited by martinws; 3 May 2014, 16:29. Reason: forgot Links

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                      • _ShurikeN
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 733
                        • Country: Russian Federation

                        #26
                        In my opinion, the best solution is to move the alternator to the right side and leave the PS pump from the left, having moved it down. Or have them both on a stock AAN bracket.
                        Auto conditioning keeping makes the core problem.

                        Some slow progress of our amateur building btw:
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                        • quattrostyle
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 6229
                          • Country: Netherlands

                          #27
                          Why did you use an NG engine inlet manifold?

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                          • _ShurikeN
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 733
                            • Country: Russian Federation

                            #28
                            Because I had one
                            And It's PS intake piece.

                            Actually I have plans to build a spacer for 2.2T throttle out of steel (I can do MIG welding myself). Or weld-on aluminium flange from 3B if I have access to free TIG welding further. It's expensive here unless I have a friend who can do it for me. It can last not forever.
                            Last edited by _ShurikeN; 5 May 2014, 12:57.

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                            • DeS
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 611
                              • Country: Poland

                              #29
                              Any new budget piece?

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