MOT Emissions Failure after RS2 Spec

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  • rynaqui
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Mar 2012
    • 2752
    • Country: Malta

    #1

    MOT Emissions Failure after RS2 Spec

    Any advice on this? No cats, new exhaust manifold as well, exhaust is definitely not blowing. Don't have any figures as these were not provided..

    It is running a bit rich though as I am running a higher octane I presume than what is required. Would too high an octane cause an emissions failure? Any advice appreciated!
    1996 S2 ABY Silver
  • AQTdriver
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jan 2011
    • 750
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    try a different MOT garage...
    '93 S2 Avant breaking
    '95 S6 Avant sold
    '83 80 Quattro SWB
    '85 90 Quattro
    '85 200 Quattro 10V sold

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    • rynaqui
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Mar 2012
      • 2752
      • Country: Malta

      #3
      Is that legal?
      1996 S2 ABY Silver

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      • Michael S2
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Dec 2011
        • 1378
        • Country: Scotland

        #4
        You will fail MOT without a cat... even on standard S2. As said find a friendly garage or install sports cat.
        1995 Audi S2 Avant

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        • K Simmonds
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Dec 2007
          • 7633
          • Country: Wales

          #5
          I guess it depends on what the Malta equivalent of an MOT requires, in the UK any car made after 1992/3 needs to have a cat fitted to pass unless you have a 'friendly' garage.

          As far as I'm aware there's no requirement to take you car back to a place that's fail it, all that matters is that is passes somewhere.
          1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
          1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
          1994 MTM RS2.
          1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
          2000 B5 TQS.

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          • irishs2
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Apr 2009
            • 2455
            • Country: Ireland

            #6
            Was the RS2 changes to your ecu done with s2 maf or rs2 maf in mind?
            Eric

            95 S2 Avant under rebuild.

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            • rynaqui
              S2Forum Fiend
              • Mar 2012
              • 2752
              • Country: Malta

              #7
              Originally posted by irishs2
              Was the RS2 changes to your ecu done with s2 maf or rs2 maf in mind?
              S2 MAF. Mentioned all spec to him including plugs, RS2 airbox, 1.8T coils etc
              1996 S2 ABY Silver

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              • prj
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Mar 2010
                • 6308
                • Country: Estonia

                #8
                Originally posted by irishs2
                Was the RS2 changes to your ecu done with s2 maf or rs2 maf in mind?
                The MAF's are identical regardless.

                I don't know what the laws are like in Malta. But in most European countries there is no way in hell you are legally going to pass MOT without a catalytic converter on an ABY engined S2.
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                • Rusty
                  Super Moderator
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 18953
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Without cats, CO should be in the 0.7% region, HC should be under 100 ppm. Need to get it on VAG com to see if anything is broken.
                  Cheers'en, AndyC
                  1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                  • prj
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 6308
                    • Country: Estonia

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Rusty
                    Without cats, CO should be in the 0.7% region, HC should be under 100 ppm. Need to get it on VAG com to see if anything is broken.
                    0.7% will fail on CO in most european countries if the car ever had a cat fitted.

                    The requirements for a catted vehicle are:
                    CO < 0.5%
                    HC < 100
                    O2 < 1.0
                    Lambda: 0.97 to 1.03
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                    • prj
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 6308
                      • Country: Estonia

                      #11
                      As to what you can do:

                      1. The correct way:
                      Install a 3" 100 cell cat into your exhaust.
                      2. The fast way:
                      Bribe the MOT guy *
                      3. The ninja way:
                      a) Pour E85 into the tank.
                      b) Get a spare 4 bar FPR and whack it a couple times with a hammer on the top to make it a 5 bar FPR and install it for the MOT.
                      c) Pass with flying colours with the MOT guy thinking his machine is broken.

                      Your choice.

                      (*) Not simple in all countries.
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                      • rynaqui
                        S2Forum Fiend
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 2752
                        • Country: Malta

                        #12
                        3 Step guide to passing your MOT, I love it!

                        Will have a go at a different MOT garage, I do think I know a guy that could help me out.

                        Not sure why but the first time I had MOT 2 years ago at the same garage it passed using the same exhaust system but then again the guy testing was different and this guy seemed kind of dodgy did not like the look of the guy at all maybe was having a bad day
                        1996 S2 ABY Silver

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                        • prj
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 6308
                          • Country: Estonia

                          #13
                          Originally posted by rynaqui
                          3 Step guide to passing your MOT, I love it!

                          Will have a go at a different MOT garage, I do think I know a guy that could help me out.

                          Not sure why but the first time I had MOT 2 years ago at the same garage it passed using the same exhaust system but then again the guy testing was different and this guy seemed kind of dodgy did not like the look of the guy at all maybe was having a bad day
                          If it passed before and did not this time there could also be something wrong. You need the readouts from the machine. When you go to the other MOT place then please ask for them. They do tell a lot.
                          Did I do your software or was it someone else? I am sorry, there's just too many cars to remember by now.
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                          • irishs2
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 2455
                            • Country: Ireland

                            #14
                            My bad prj, though there was a difference because of r201.
                            Eric

                            95 S2 Avant under rebuild.

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                            • rynaqui
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 2752
                              • Country: Malta

                              #15
                              Originally posted by prj
                              If it passed before and did not this time there could also be something wrong. You need the readouts from the machine. When you go to the other MOT place then please ask for them. They do tell a lot.
                              Did I do your software or was it someone else? I am sorry, there's just too many cars to remember by now.
                              Will definitely get the readings next time, Will had the software done for me.

                              Thanks for all your help
                              1996 S2 ABY Silver

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