wedge? on throttle body butterfly

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  • momento1
    S2Forum Addict
    • Mar 2011
    • 358
    • Country: Australia

    #1

    wedge? on throttle body butterfly

    anyone know the reason for the wedge on the butterfly as per the pic. At WOT is looks like it would restirct some airflow...
    It kind of looks to me like they were aiming to directing airflow however if im going the reverse intake path i dont see the point of it...
    any input would be great as im thinking of removing it and pluging the holes.
    Cheers
    Current:
    1993 Audi S2 Kingfisher Blue - GTX3582r w/ E85 = 430kw atw

    Past:
    2002 Audi S4 Nogaro Blue Stage 3+ - 250kw+ atw
    2001 Audi S3 Silver - 169kw+ atw
  • Mcstiff
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Oct 2004
    • 504
    • Country: United States

    #2
    1995 1PissedOff90sigpic1991 USDM CQ 7aT

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    • quattrostyle
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Oct 2006
      • 6229
      • Country: Netherlands

      #3
      He is talking about the 20VT throttle body. I deleted it on one of the S2's I owned. Can't tell if it made a difference as I did a lot at once then.

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      • momento1
        S2Forum Addict
        • Mar 2011
        • 358
        • Country: Australia

        #4
        thanks quattrostyle
        so no ill effects then after you removed it??

        sounds fine to me, i dont see the need for it really
        Current:
        1993 Audi S2 Kingfisher Blue - GTX3582r w/ E85 = 430kw atw

        Past:
        2002 Audi S4 Nogaro Blue Stage 3+ - 250kw+ atw
        2001 Audi S3 Silver - 169kw+ atw

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        • quattrostyle
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Oct 2006
          • 6229
          • Country: Netherlands

          #5
          No ill effects AFAIK, I did get the ECU throwing a code every now and then after multiple times WOT though. I can't remember exactly but it was a 5 digit number and starting with a 5 as well I believe. That could have been caused by multiple factors I guess.

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          • Jamo
            Retired OG Mod
            • Mar 2004
            • 21750
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            It's there for part throttle control to make it smoother and more progressive, if you remove it or make the throttle body wider it becomes very twitchy to pedal response

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            • Jamo
              Retired OG Mod
              • Mar 2004
              • 21750
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              There's been a few threads on this but I remember this one on audifans http://www.audifans.net/ftopicp-65432-.html

              He didn't like the results on removing it!

              034 offer it as a service IIRC

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              • momento1
                S2Forum Addict
                • Mar 2011
                • 358
                • Country: Australia

                #8
                so its probably fair to say that it smooths out part throttle.... which probably makes sense thinking about it... but at WOT it looks like it would dampen air flow a bit....

                ok i guess it stays in place for now then...
                GT3071 turbo upgrade is almost finished... !!!!
                Current:
                1993 Audi S2 Kingfisher Blue - GTX3582r w/ E85 = 430kw atw

                Past:
                2002 Audi S4 Nogaro Blue Stage 3+ - 250kw+ atw
                2001 Audi S3 Silver - 169kw+ atw

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                • Jamo
                  Retired OG Mod
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 21750
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  There is no way it's going to restrict a setup with a 3071 turbo

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                  • momento1
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 358
                    • Country: Australia

                    #10
                    every bit counts.....
                    Current:
                    1993 Audi S2 Kingfisher Blue - GTX3582r w/ E85 = 430kw atw

                    Past:
                    2002 Audi S4 Nogaro Blue Stage 3+ - 250kw+ atw
                    2001 Audi S3 Silver - 169kw+ atw

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                    • twenty valve
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 630
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      I didn't think twice before taking mine off, again I did a lot of mods at the time so can't comment with and without it. I can say however that with Dmitri's mapping it runs like a swiss watch. You'll need to plug the 2 holes it leaves behind though, I countersunk them both sides and used some solid brass rivets. Whatever you do, make sure it can't come out!

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                      • 20Vcqdriver
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 829
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        I didn't remove mine altogether but i did reduce its size, There is a pic of it in the Audi Driver magazine , will try and dig pic out at some point this week.... Actually prefer it as I get better part throttle acceleration but still good control when cruising...
                        1986 Coupe q - 2281cc 3B, chargecooler, 2.75" exh & downpipe, ported head, water injection, CGR box, modified MD357 turbo, 440cc injectors, high power coil.
                        2004 A4 2.5TDi convertible, re-mapped to 180bhp
                        2011 A5 sportback 3TDi-Backbox delete, remap

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                        • momento1
                          S2Forum Addict
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 358
                          • Country: Australia

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 20Vcqdriver
                          I didn't remove mine altogether but i did reduce its size, There is a pic of it in the Audi Driver magazine , will try and dig pic out at some point this week.... Actually prefer it as I get better part throttle acceleration but still good control when cruising...
                          if you could dig up some pics that would be great...

                          i would no doubt get used to the throttle responsiveness in a short period of time anyways, and its not a daily driver... so maybe i could bare with having it gone, or perhaps at least reduce the size of it as 20Vcqdriver has done
                          Current:
                          1993 Audi S2 Kingfisher Blue - GTX3582r w/ E85 = 430kw atw

                          Past:
                          2002 Audi S4 Nogaro Blue Stage 3+ - 250kw+ atw
                          2001 Audi S3 Silver - 169kw+ atw

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                          • A1quattro
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 789
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            we machined out the throttle body by 2mm and made a 2mm bigger flat butterfly , i got the idear from 034 site , fitted to rally car so its not on part throttle much if at all

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                            • Kieron20V
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 1505
                              • Home: England Current: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              Don't you run a restrictor anyway Ray?

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                              1994 URS4 Avant RS2+

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