50mm Chinese wastegate

[robo]

Hi I wondered if anybody has any experience with these waste gates. The wastegate is chinese copy of hks and I have this gate installed in my car. The car is still under construction and I did not have this set up working yet.
Recently I bought 44mm tial wastegate to replace the cheep Chinese one but before I get stuck in doing this rather big job I would like some opinion if its a must to replace it.
Cheers

[quattrostyle]

Don't do it.

There was a Swedish member who discovered running problems with one of these. Leaked right out of the box, crap.

[robo]

Don't do it.

There was a Swedish member who discovered running problems with one of these. Leaked right out of the box, crap.

Which one the Chinese or the Tial?

[geneandbolly]

why on earth is "chinese" still synonymous with being *****?? you would have thought
that they'd have started making decent kit by now!!

[robo]

why on earth is "chinese" still synonymous with being *****?? you would have thought
that they'd have started making decent kit by now!!

This wonders me as well,
Recently I bought some Chinese slate for customers roof, started installing it and about third way up when leaning on slates to go further the slates started to brake.
Took it all off, shaved it back to selco and went and bought some decent Spanish slate , job well done. I am not racist but if some products have name ''Chinese'' in it is this translates to s***?

[quattrostyle]

Which one the Chinese or the Tial?

The Chinese crap ofcourse, http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthr...ighlight=avant

[Thuppu]

The 60mm copy WG has been proven to be ok.

[Wizard-of-OD]

why on earth is "chinese" still synonymous with being *****?? you would have thought
that they'd have started making decent kit by now!!

Cost/industry change
I buy copied Chinese products from ebay from time to time to see how "good" they are getting and compare it to our offerings (i.e. customer in far east buys one of our billet products and 2 years later it pops up on alibaba/ebay).
By the time they make a half decent copy , they are discovered and the factory has to focus on copying the next product. You will see tooling marks because the bits are dull , poor grade aluminum that when cut in half the porosity is exposed and the anodization turns after 1 heat cycle.
What alot of people fail to realise with respect to a wastegate is that you have to configure it for your application so building a downpipe adapter and manifold adapter is a fixed cost whether TiAL or china and when the product fails , you are stuck getting another one out of China.

TiAL WG's = industry standard.

[Jamo]

Tial = industry standard? I don't agree I'd say turbosmart over tial any day of the week

[Wizard-of-OD]

Tial = industry standard? I don't agree I'd say turbosmart over tial any day of the week

I guess it depends on where you live in the world. We don't really use Turbosmart here due to the import cost which puts them at more expensive than the TiAL offerings in the same size for e.g.
TS-0505-1005 40mm unit = $322 USD
TiAL MVS38mm (V-band offering) = 249 USD

I have been using TiAL Gates since 2002? Yet to have one fail.

[Thuppu]

Even Tial anodization changes color after some heat cycles.

[Jamo]

I guess it depends on where you live in the world. We don't really use Turbosmart here due to the import cost which puts them at more expensive than the TiAL offerings in the same size for e.g.
TS-0505-1005 40mm unit = $322 USD
TiAL MVS38mm (V-band offering) = 249 USD

I have been using TiAL Gates since 2002? Yet to have one fail.

True, different over here, market is flooded with Tial copies being sold as originals. Tials therefore maybe wrongly don't have the best reputation.