Tial 50 mm BOV = 3 sec lag ???

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  • sorens2
    S2Forum Addict
    • Feb 2004
    • 241
    • Country: Denmark

    #1

    Tial 50 mm BOV = 3 sec lag ???

    I´ve bought a Tial 50 mm BOV. Very hardcore in look and function but the turbolag after installing it is massive. Between gears I can almost put my seatbelt on. It´s mounted right after the turbo with a 8 mm hose directly up to the intake. Running 1.6 bar of boost. Tried different springs.
    Isn´t it suppose to give less lag when I mount a larger (more efficient) BOV ?
    I user to have a Bailey. Was ok.

    Søren S2
    Audi RS4 LO550

    BTG 8:08

    www.fredslunds.dk
  • Mark Halligan
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jul 2003
    • 2001
    • Country: England

    #2
    Originally posted by SøernS2
    I´ve bought a Tial 50 mm BOV. Very hardcore in look and function but the turbolag after installing it is massive. Between gears I can almost put my seatbelt on. It´s mounted right after the turbo with a 8 mm hose directly up to the intake. Running 1.6 bar of boost. Tried different springs.
    Isn´t it suppose to give less lag when I mount a larger (more efficient) BOV ?
    I user to have a Bailey. Was ok.

    Søren S2

    Cr@p I was going to get one of these .

    Is it working slowly - do you hear the boost being dumped immediately you lift off of the throttle, or is there a delay? - Maybe something to do with that large 8mm bore signal line that it uses? Perhaps going down to a 4mm ID hose will give a 'crisper' vacuum signal??

    Mark.
    Mark - Modded

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    • sorens2
      S2Forum Addict
      • Feb 2004
      • 241
      • Country: Denmark

      #3
      No way. Not going down. Then it is very slow. Said also by Tial. As soon as I come of the trottle it phefffss. As it should. But going on the gas even at 5800 rpm it takes forever to make just 1 bar.

      Søren S2
      Audi RS4 LO550

      BTG 8:08

      www.fredslunds.dk

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      • quattroTurbo
        S2Forum Enthusiast
        • Nov 2004
        • 178

        #4
        It's possible that the valve is too big - dumping ALL the boost. Also, is the valve closing quickly? Adjust the spring tension if it is taking its time closing.

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        • S2central.net
          Retired OG Mod
          • Jul 2003
          • 16590
          • Country: Northern Ireland

          #5
          Hmmmm - yeah - why a 50mm BOV ?

          Possibly required for monster turbo installations - for those that like to blow off (psshhh) - versus those that like to recirculate.

          I think the recirculating valve is better with standard pipework as it allows the turbine to keep spinning between gear changes when that puff of pressurised air is allowed to recirculate.

          A blow-off valve by definition, dumps the remaining pressurised air to atmosphere. This is pressurised air that the engine worked hard to generate, so why waste all of it - its not like that silly psssssssshhhhhhhhhhtttttt noise is going to impress anyone !

          Just my tuppence worth !!!


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          • Hacke
            S2Forum Enthusiast
            • Jun 2004
            • 157
            • Country: Sweden

            #6
            try mutch mutch stronger spring,or use dubble
            HackeRacing

            AG:s Norrkoping Sweden

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            • sorens2
              S2Forum Addict
              • Feb 2004
              • 241
              • Country: Denmark

              #7
              But it doesn´t leak. Why should I use a stronger spring. Then it doesn´t open at all.
              I haven´t got standard pipework. MAF is on pressure side.
              And I like the phefffff...sound. So do others.
              Even if you use a recirk. type the turbo looses all that power that it has just generated...

              Søren S2
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              • Hacke
                S2Forum Enthusiast
                • Jun 2004
                • 157
                • Country: Sweden

                #8
                forget that i wrote... I thaugt that it was about wastegate...
                HackeRacing

                AG:s Norrkoping Sweden

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