RS2 cats max horsepower

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  • bertman
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Apr 2007
    • 1173
    • Current: United Kingdom

    #1

    RS2 cats max horsepower

    What's the max horsepower that the RS2 cats can handle.My turbo is being re- built atm and the guy says that there has been an issue with back pressure or lack of it to be precise.
    Thinking of 're installing the cats and keeping them on
    My car is RS2+ spec
    Rob

    Ragussa green avant RS2+ spec
    Racing blue Octavia VRS mk2 estate-Remapped now to 250 bhp
    Audi coupe gt-slow as hell but loads of character-sold
  • saltinot
    S2Forum Extremist
    • May 2004
    • 1946

    #2
    It's always been my understanding that zero backpressure is optimal on a turbo car. Backpressure=lag and less HP.

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    • Error404
      Super Moderator
      • Mar 2007
      • 19789
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      Be interested to hear them qualify that reasoning
      Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
      Indigo ABY coupé
      Imola B6 S4 Avant

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      • bertman
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Apr 2007
        • 1173
        • Current: United Kingdom

        #4
        Something to do with the oil seals.It has been smoking at long periods of idle.It has gone to borg warner to be rebuilt and a small mod done to it which will stop this doing it in the future.MOT is coming out and i doubt it will pass the emissions with all that smoke coming out.
        They asked whether I was running a bigger exhaust than standard,which I am with de-cat pipes.
        So I cannot explain fully but that is what they said
        Rob

        Ragussa green avant RS2+ spec
        Racing blue Octavia VRS mk2 estate-Remapped now to 250 bhp
        Audi coupe gt-slow as hell but loads of character-sold

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        • s2driveruk
          Super Moderator
          • Jul 2003
          • 12696
          • Country: England

          #5
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          • bertman
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Apr 2007
            • 1173
            • Current: United Kingdom

            #6
            Well its not a 4" system,its a milltek RS2 cat back and RS2 downpipe,with de cat pipes.So there is logic in what they are saying then.
            So will adding the cats back on provide a little bit more back pressure?
            Rob

            Ragussa green avant RS2+ spec
            Racing blue Octavia VRS mk2 estate-Remapped now to 250 bhp
            Audi coupe gt-slow as hell but loads of character-sold

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            • s2driveruk
              Super Moderator
              • Jul 2003
              • 12696
              • Country: England

              #7
              yeah would appear to be even though i knew it wasn't a 'drainpipe' on yours
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              • Error404
                Super Moderator
                • Mar 2007
                • 19789
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                I don't buy it, the changes you've made are not that drastic.
                Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                Indigo ABY coupé
                Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                • K Simmonds
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 7633
                  • Country: Wales

                  #9
                  Yeah, I'm a little dubious myself, but without hearing their reasoning it's hard to be critical, as rule the least back pressure the better on turbo charged cars.

                  I've done 10K miles now on my RS2+ set up with a full 3" system all the way from the turbo to a single 2.75" Jetex back box and the turbo seems happy and spools up very early for a K24 7200.

                  Anyway to try and answer your original question. RS2 cat's are good for at least 350 BHP if not more as I know there's plenty of RS2's running generic 1.9/1.5 bar software with the cat's still in place without issue.

                  That said MTM felt it necessary to uprate them on their conversions once beyond 350/ 360 BHP according to any info I or anyone else on here can find. My MTM car has stock cat's which look a bit like a sports cat but with Audi part numbers on them, in fact I thought they were after-market until I had a good look at them. Mine has a K26/7 conversion and is a proper torque monster above 3K but I suspect it's peak power is a 'mere' 340BHP.
                  1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                  1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                  1994 MTM RS2.
                  1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                  2000 B5 TQS.

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                  • diesel des
                    S2Forum Possessed
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 3896

                    #10
                    If you have smoke at idle then it's not likely to be exhaust size related. Think about it. At idle exhaust flow is at minimum and even a 1 inch exhaust would cope with little back pressure. Check oil return hose. Check crank vent system. Check compression and valve stem seals. Likely to just be bad bearing in turbo causing the seals not to operate properly.

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                    • AndyP
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 6049
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      Which company is it that's giving you this information??
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                      • A80Avant
                        S2Forum Obsessed
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 10873
                        • Country: Greece

                        #12
                        I have run 420hp on rs2 cats and the back pressure was manageable

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                        • bertman
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 1173
                          • Current: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Originally posted by A80Avant
                          I have run 420hp on rs2 cats and the back pressure was manageable

                          Good to know mate
                          Rob

                          Ragussa green avant RS2+ spec
                          Racing blue Octavia VRS mk2 estate-Remapped now to 250 bhp
                          Audi coupe gt-slow as hell but loads of character-sold

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