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  • s2-1.5bar
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Sep 2004
    • 193
    • Home: Lithuania Current: United Kingdom

    #1

    sump breather

    I had this problem with the sump breather valve since last year-I/C full of oil, and under boost the oil was getting sucked from sump in to intake system. In Dec 04 found out that the valve does not does its job-the membrane was eaten away by oil.

    Fitted brand new valve-couple of months in, and the same story.

    Found the thread here about catch tank been used on 2.5 TDI from A6. Ordered. It was smaller than I expected, but never mind.

    Fitted this catch tank in to the breathing system. Just needed to block the drainage hall in the catch tank. Have no return oil line to the sump. Blocked the pipe that goes into inlet(the one that just before turbo inlet) and attached small breather filter, to vent the fumes.

    The problem is that the fumes are realy getting inside the car.

    Solution: this original audi breather has a internal plastic valve, as opose to the breather valve. So I connected exit pipe from the breather back to the air inlet pipe.

    This been done last w/end, ans since then everything seems alright. I think the plastic valve inside the breather will do the job much more better than membrane.

    Some pictures attache-plumbing looks abit strange, but with lomited resources it works.

    BTW-since this conversation and decent Jubilee superclaps between the IC and intake pipe the boost holds. And my previous boost cut outs at 4000rpm probably have been related to this and very dirty intake T sensor on the IM. Cleaned the sensor with the IPA and problem gone. For NOW
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  • s2-1.5bar
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Sep 2004
    • 193
    • Home: Lithuania Current: United Kingdom

    #2
    anothe pic
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    • Sweeper
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Jul 2003
      • 1317
      • Country: Latvia

      #3
      What year A6 ? You bought only catch tank ? no other parts , hoses required ?


      Thanks.
      Last edited by Sweeper; 17 May 2005, 17:43.
      Vadim.

      New engine (mechanical PKM head) , Alcon 332mm brakes , Pauter rods , Mahle pistons, GT30R , kw v2 sucpension , new exhaust. 608HP. For SALE !

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      • porkkis
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Aug 2003
        • 1994
        • Country: Finland

        #4
        Hmm the TDI catch is way smaller than I thought. Did you measure its height?
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        • s2-1.5bar
          S2Forum Enthusiast
          • Sep 2004
          • 193
          • Home: Lithuania Current: United Kingdom

          #5
          Size, part no and etc tomorow afternoon. Sorry bit busy tonight.

          Regards

          Andy

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          • Sweeper
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Jul 2003
            • 1317
            • Country: Latvia

            #6
            so ?
            Vadim.

            New engine (mechanical PKM head) , Alcon 332mm brakes , Pauter rods , Mahle pistons, GT30R , kw v2 sucpension , new exhaust. 608HP. For SALE !

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            • s2-1.5bar
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              • Sep 2004
              • 193
              • Home: Lithuania Current: United Kingdom

              #7
              Apologies for the delay with answer

              Size is:

              Top end is ~50mm diemeter, overall lenght (top-bottom)-200mm. The bottom end is narrow. The tank is conus shape as per attache picture. I think capacity is about 200-250ml.

              I bought it without any connecting pipes. As u can use any suitable diameter hoses for this conversation, plus 1 no (central heating-from household) elbow to help bend hoses towards turbo inlet oil fumes pipe.The tank has 2 brackets to fix it to body work.

              As u know I blocked oil return to the sump line at the bottom of catch tank, this probably result in need to remove once a month the tank and drain all sh*t that accumulates in it.

              The tank came from A6 2.5TDI(from 1995). Part number 046 103 495A. Price £29.10+VAT from VAG parts.

              Hope its helps.

              Regards

              Andrius
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              • S2central.net
                Retired OG Mod
                • Jul 2003
                • 16590
                • Country: Northern Ireland

                #8
                Nice - I think I'll look into this mod, but I'll retain the connection to the sump, using factory hardware as I'm the kind of lazy sole that couldn't be bothered cleaning out the tank on a regular basis.

                Sure is a nice way to clean up the air intake. Though I might want to run the air vent out to atmosphere underneath the car rather than vent it near the bulkhead where the smell can enter the cabin.
                Paul Nugent
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                1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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                • martinjs
                  S2Forum Possessed
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 3205
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  So does 14,15 and 16 in that diagram connect to the sump plug somehow?

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                  • Jamo
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 21750
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Originally posted by martinjs
                    So does 14,15 and 16 in that diagram connect to the sump plug somehow?
                    Looks like it, same size according to Fumoto size guide on the A6 and S2.

                    Anybody got part numbers or Family Album page number for further investigation?

                    Infact does anybody know the size and thread of the sump plug?

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                    • Jas11n
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 5067
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jamo
                      Family Album page number for further investigation?
                      Model - A6
                      Year - 95,
                      MG - 1,
                      SG - 03,
                      Illustration - 103-90.
                      2001 Avus Silver B5 RS4.
                      2004 A4 Avant 1.8T quattro Sport-LE.
                      1995 S2 Coupe - sold (sniff)

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                      • Jamo
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 21750
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Cheers Jase , i'll look at that when i get home, Just found some numbers on Vagcat

                        14 = 046103227 - Oil return pipe
                        15 = N 0138492 - Seal
                        16 = N 0210745 - Banjo bolt

                        Wonder how much they are?

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                        • Jamo
                          Retired OG Mod
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 21750
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Found out my own info

                          Audi S2('91-'96), S4('92-'94), S6('95-''97), Cabriolet('94-'98), A4/A4 Quattro(4 cyl.-upto '96), A6/A6 Quattro('95-'96) Size (mm) 26mm diameter 1.5mm pitch

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                          • Jamo
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 21750
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jamo
                            Cheers Jase , i'll look at that when i get home, Just found some numbers on Vagcat

                            14 = 046103227 - Oil return pipe
                            15 = N 0138492 - Seal
                            16 = N 0210745 - Banjo bolt

                            Wonder how much they are?
                            Thats the end of that, the diesel has a different sump plug to the petrol.

                            Diesel is M14 x 1.5
                            Petrol M26 x 1.5

                            Back to the drawing board.

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                            • S2central.net
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 16590
                              • Country: Northern Ireland

                              #15
                              D'oh
                              Paul Nugent
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                              1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                              2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                              Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

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