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  • Mikes2
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jul 2003
    • 1704
    • Country: Scotland

    #16
    Originally posted by karlblues2
    Alistair, isn't there also so an issue that the non-airbagged S2 had the collapsable steering column but the airbagged S2 didn't? Not sure what impact that has, but it must be worth checking out as the column would behave differently on impact and may cause the airbag to operate incorrectly? Anyone able to comment on this?
    Cheers
    Karl
    Oz
    The non airbag cars had ProCon Ten. Fitting an airbag wheel to such a car shouldn't be a problem since the airbag can't trigger.
    Mike

    http://www.s2-audi.co.uk

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    • karlblues2
      S2Forum Addict
      • Jul 2004
      • 402
      • Home: England Current: Australia

      #17
      Originally posted by Mikes2
      The non airbag cars had ProCon Ten. Fitting an airbag wheel to such a car shouldn't be a problem since the airbag can't trigger.
      are u saying you won't connect the airbag?
      Oct 93 build MY 94 ABY Kingfisher Blue Audi S2 with MD147 turbo :mischeif:u SOLD
      Audi 90 Quattro 20V 1989 7A
      Audi TTRS 2010 APR stage 2 +
      Triumph 675 Street Triple R

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      • Keeper of The Kitten
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Dec 2003
        • 2317
        • Country: England

        #18
        Yeah, this is weird! Why have the airbag wheel without the function?

        It's a bulkier object and maybe it's to some folk's taste, but I think all airbag wheels look a little ugly. Each to their own!!!

        Personally I prefer the old flat racer type wheel. Probably lighter too! As I said, each to their own.

        Sensors that trigger airbags are not normally in the column anyway? Suppose you could just disconnect the ProConTen cables if you ran functioning airbag.

        __MDC__
        Martin Cutting

        aka Keeper of "The Teutonic Kitten"

        It's not better than sex, but it runs it a close second.

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        • Mikes2
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Jul 2003
          • 1704
          • Country: Scotland

          #19
          Originally posted by karlblues2
          are u saying you won't connect the airbag?

          Connect to what ? This is my point, there is nothing to connect it to.
          Mike

          http://www.s2-audi.co.uk

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          • Alistair C
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Jul 2003
            • 693

            #20
            Originally posted by karlblues2
            Alistair, isn't there also so an issue that the non-airbagged S2 had the collapsable steering column but the airbagged S2 didn't? Not sure what impact that has, but it must be worth checking out as the column would behave differently on impact and may cause the airbag to operate incorrectly? Anyone able to comment on this?
            Cheers
            Karl
            Oz
            Hmm - interesting point re the collapsable column. However, I've no plans on putting an airbag in the new wheel - I'm just going to knock up a replacement panel instead.

            And in case anyone is wondering, I find the non-airbag S2 wheel particularly unattractive - IMHO it looks too thin and feeble in that chunky interior. And the airbag one is much more attractive with more tactice contours on the rim.....!

            Doug, is it a slip ring issue? According to the 'album', both the S2 and the RS2 have the same slip ring (4D0 951 543D). This should have the indicator cancelling lump and certainly worked on my '95 ABY. It sounds to me like either the 3 spoke wheel has a totally different slip ring design - or the cancelling lump has been broken off yours?
            Last edited by Alistair C; 30 September 2005, 18:43.

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            • Jas11n
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Jan 2004
              • 5067
              • Country: England

              #21
              You get this off Sal Alistair ? Seems I have it's airbag Bought it off Sal to replace my blown one.
              2001 Avus Silver B5 RS4.
              2004 A4 Avant 1.8T quattro Sport-LE.
              1995 S2 Coupe - sold (sniff)

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              • Alistair C
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Jul 2003
                • 693

                #22
                Originally posted by Fourrings
                You get this off Sal Alistair ? Seems I have it's airbag Bought it off Sal to replace my blown one.
                Yup off Sal - and very nice it is too!
                Jas - when it blows, how does the centre panel split mate? does it split around the audi logo or round the edge of that central circular area? don't suppose you've got a pic do you?

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                • rotoryboy
                  S2Forum Possessed
                  • May 2004
                  • 3281
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Alistair C
                  don't suppose you've got a pic do you?
                  It's etched on his mind
                  Mark

                  Race Clio RS197

                  S2 Coupe ABY (Green) - RIP
                  S2 Coupe ABY (Blue) - Sold

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                  • Jas11n
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 5067
                    • Country: England

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Alistair C
                    Yup off Sal - and very nice it is too!
                    Jas - when it blows, how does the centre panel split mate? does it split around the audi logo or round the edge of that central circular area? don't suppose you've got a pic do you?
                    Really strange, but I never took a pic of the blown airbag, must have had something to do with the "prisoner" style nightmares of big white balloons that troubled me for a few weeks after the crash.

                    Attached an image below, the airbag blew through the centre, the plastic broke roughly along the red line and folded back over in the direction of the green arrow.
                    You wouldn't believe how hot the bag and wheel was after it went, and the smoke filled the car
                    Right, suppose I'll have to go back into therapy now, thought I'd got over this



                    Originally posted by Mark
                    It's etched on his mind
                    And on my face
                    2001 Avus Silver B5 RS4.
                    2004 A4 Avant 1.8T quattro Sport-LE.
                    1995 S2 Coupe - sold (sniff)

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                    • Alistair C
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 693

                      #25
                      cheers - i thought it'd go something like that.

                      My only problem is that I don't have an Audi centre for the project.
                      I did just buy an A3 airbag to canibalise for this purpose - but the Git on e-bay has just claimed that he's 'lost' it. Lost it my back side - more likely he realised it was just worth more than the £21 I won it for......

                      the search continues......

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                      • karlblues2
                        S2Forum Addict
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 402
                        • Home: England Current: Australia

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Alistair C
                        Hmm - interesting point re the collapsable column. However, I've no plans on putting an airbag in the new wheel - I'm just going to knock up a replacement panel instead.

                        And in case anyone is wondering, I find the non-airbag S2 wheel particularly unattractive - IMHO it looks too thin and feeble in that chunky interior. And the airbag one is much more attractive with more tactice contours on the rim.....!

                        Doug, is it a slip ring issue? According to the 'album', both the S2 and the RS2 have the same slip ring (4D0 951 543D). This should have the indicator cancelling lump and certainly worked on my '95 ABY. It sounds to me like either the 3 spoke wheel has a totally different slip ring design - or the cancelling lump has been broken off yours?
                        Ahhh. That makes more sense Alistair. As someone else said, it's a personal choice. If you are not looking to connect to the standard S2 airbag sensors (where fitted) then it's aesthetics only and not a bad choice. Far better than the standard 4 spoke thingy IMHO
                        Cheers
                        Karl
                        Oz (With Genuine RS2 alcantara non-airbag fitted )
                        Oct 93 build MY 94 ABY Kingfisher Blue Audi S2 with MD147 turbo :mischeif:u SOLD
                        Audi 90 Quattro 20V 1989 7A
                        Audi TTRS 2010 APR stage 2 +
                        Triumph 675 Street Triple R

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                        • karlblues2
                          S2Forum Addict
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 402
                          • Home: England Current: Australia

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Mikes2
                          Connect to what ? This is my point, there is nothing to connect it to.
                          Yes Mike.Totally agree mate. Unless you connected it to some S2 airbag sensors that were fitted to airbag equipped S2's. As you say, the pro-con ten equipped car wouldn't have the sensors, so I assumed some sensors would be needed to make it work, and the pro-con ten system would have to be de-activated or an airbag equipped steering column attached. But if he doesn't want to connect the airbag up, - no problemo
                          Cheers
                          Karl
                          Last edited by karlblues2; 5 October 2005, 04:08.
                          Oct 93 build MY 94 ABY Kingfisher Blue Audi S2 with MD147 turbo :mischeif:u SOLD
                          Audi 90 Quattro 20V 1989 7A
                          Audi TTRS 2010 APR stage 2 +
                          Triumph 675 Street Triple R

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                          • Alistair C
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 693

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Keeper of The Kitten
                            ....... each to their own.
                            Well - I finally got round to finishing off my new wheel centre. Perhaps not to everyones tastes - but I really prefer it to the standard skinny 3-spoke.

                            Should fit in even better when the door trims arrive and can be trimmed in the matching Alcantara. (and then the recaros too!)
                            Attached Files
                            Last edited by Alistair C; 17 December 2005, 19:21.

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                            • Alistair C
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 693

                              #29
                              Lord Vader's wheel...

                              Of course, if I get bored with the Alcantara, I could always go with the leather look plastic or even the 'Darth Vader' shiny plastic version!
                              Attached Files

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                              • Jas11n
                                S2Forum Zealot
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 5067
                                • Country: England

                                #30
                                WoW Bloody damn fine work there
                                Looks great Alistair.
                                2001 Avus Silver B5 RS4.
                                2004 A4 Avant 1.8T quattro Sport-LE.
                                1995 S2 Coupe - sold (sniff)

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