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  • borderS2
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Jul 2008
    • 166
    • Country: Scotland

    #16
    Active split speakers in the rear

    That explains what is in the rear doors of my 1996 A6.
    Tweeters near the window and bass drivers with a sheilded circuit board on the back.
    Great if four in the car, you can hear the music and still talk to each other.
    Unfortunately the rear speakers sometimes make some wierd noises and are turned down most of the time.
    S2 91 (red standard)

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    • S2central.net
      Retired OG Mod
      • Jul 2003
      • 16590
      • Country: Northern Ireland

      #17
      Yeah - I have similar active splits in our A6AR - umpteen channel Bose thing - does sound darn good though...

      I'll have to hit the original schematics again - the small print may have some info as to what territory the active rears apply to - or it might be unique to Cabrio and I may have mistakingly carried it into the S2 info - hoping to capture all the options out there.
      Paul Nugent
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      • Jas11n
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        • Jan 2004
        • 5067
        • Country: England

        #18
        Originally posted by Jas11n
        What version of the FA are you running Paul??
        Speak to yourself Jase

        I was trying to say, that's if you are interested of course, if it's FA 7 they have pictures to accompany the speaker info in the accessory catalogue along with a bit more info, sizes, ratings and so on.
        Searching under Audi Coupe will bring up some of those listed for the cabby too. Since the interior of the Coupe was the same as the Coupe quattro, it's a good bet they were offered. Just couldn't be arsed to list them.

        Looks like version 6 from your PDF and I can't remember if the pictures are available in that.
        2001 Avus Silver B5 RS4.
        2004 A4 Avant 1.8T quattro Sport-LE.
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        • S2central.net
          Retired OG Mod
          • Jul 2003
          • 16590
          • Country: Northern Ireland

          #19
          Tis indeed a version 6 album - some pics are there on the cabby bits - not many though... If your v7 tells us more then all the better.
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          • S2central.net
            Retired OG Mod
            • Jul 2003
            • 16590
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            #20
            Originally posted by Jas11n
            Speak to yourself Jase

            I was trying to say, that's if you are interested of course, if it's FA 7 they have pictures to accompany the speaker info in the accessory catalogue along with a bit more info, sizes, ratings and so on.
            Searching under Audi Coupe will bring up some of those listed for the cabby too. Since the interior of the Coupe was the same as the Coupe quattro, it's a good bet they were offered. Just couldn't be arsed to list them.

            Looks like version 6 from your PDF and I can't remember if the pictures are available in that.
            Ooh - Errr... I wasn't bothered to look at the ordinary Coupe (ACO) cos the ACOQ accessory info was empty and for goodness sake - it does indeed show a lot of audio info on active units, tweeters for the rear and such. That FA is a joke - so poor... You have to look in seven places for one bit of info.
            Paul Nugent
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            • S2central.net
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              • Jul 2003
              • 16590
              • Country: Northern Ireland

              #21
              Same goes for the plain old 80 Sedan / Avant - many audio options shown there incl active rears and component devices. Most of the parts are NLA of course but fair to say that lots of aftermarket stuff should be able to make use of the locations.

              Attached PDF lists everything I can find for Coupe, Avant, Sedan & Cabby...
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              • GazzaG60
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                • Mar 2007
                • 4133
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #22
                active was a standard feature in a corrado. its crap.

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                • S2central.net
                  Retired OG Mod
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 16590
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                  #23
                  I'm not saying the Audi active speakers are best, but I'm trying to find the locations and sizes of the woofer & tweeter locations on the cars that were equipped with the active setup... SHould be plenty of modern stuff that can fit those locations for much improved sound even if the active wiring loom was not used.
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                  • GazzaG60
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                    • Mar 2007
                    • 4133
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #24
                    the speaker locationmon the corrado was the same. they were in the dash. in all honesty id expect the stock location of tweater and speaker in the dash to be used. or maybe the tweaters on the back shelf sides. doubt there would be differences other than speaker type and the addition of the poor active amp.

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                    • S2central.net
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                      • Jul 2003
                      • 16590
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                      #25
                      So - how come none of the Audio experts spotted this then ?

                      I started this thread when I was ~100 miles away from my car, but this morning its pretty firkin easy to see where the rear tweeters go on a Coupe. Its about a 50mm meshed cover on that. There will be plenty of room in the rear trim panels for a crossover box to allow use of two piece components from likes of MB Quart 213 series (5.25" or bigger with trim mods I guess).
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                      • Fat Audi 80
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                        • Jan 2004
                        • 10547
                        • Country: England

                        #26
                        Originally posted by S2central.net
                        So - how come none of the Audio experts spotted this then ?

                        I started this thread when I was ~100 miles away from my car, but this morning its pretty firkin easy to see where the rear tweeters go on a Coupe. Its about a 50mm meshed cover on that. There will be plenty of room in the rear trim panels for a crossover box to allow use of two piece components from likes of MB Quart 213 series (5.25" or bigger with trim mods I guess).
                        We did!

                        Originally posted by hibby
                        Thought there was space for the tweeters just at the side of the parcel shelf on all coupes?
                        Also, if you did not have about four threads currently active we could try and keep up with you!

                        Cheers,

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                        • HPmuirt
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                          • Apr 2005
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by S2central.net
                          So - how come none of the Audio experts spotted this then ?

                          I started this thread when I was ~100 miles away from my car, but this morning its pretty firkin easy to see where the rear tweeters go on a Coupe. Its about a 50mm meshed cover on that. There will be plenty of room in the rear trim panels for a crossover box to allow use of two piece components from likes of MB Quart 213 series (5.25" or bigger with trim mods I guess).
                          Well, that's what I have been asking Paul ....will they really fit?

                          1. How are the OEM tweeter fixed in (i.e. is it a unique method that will not work with aftermarket tweeters)
                          2. What is the size of the OEM tweeter and therefore what is the max size that the replacement can be?
                          3. What trim mods are required if any?

                          There must be some BTDT's out there, preferrably with copious pictures Failing that, does anyone have a set of rear trim panels off the car that they can post a picture of? (and then sell me as one of mine is broken)

                          Cheers n

                          Si
                          95 ABY S2 Coupe - Ragusa Green
                          Subtle mods here and there


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                          • Greg_S
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                            • Jul 2003
                            • 12431
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #28
                            To replace the OEM tweeters will require a bit of tweaking, when i replaced the rear speakers on my coupe I left the standard rear tweeters in place since it was going to be more hassle than it was worth to change them. The 5.25" speakers weren't too hard to change though, but need to check for clearance issues if you fit deep speakers.
                            Greg

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                            • Nj
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                              • Jan 2007
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by HPmuirt
                              Well, that's what I have been asking Paul ....will they really fit?

                              1. How are the OEM tweeter fixed in (i.e. is it a unique method that will not work with aftermarket tweeters)
                              2. What is the size of the OEM tweeter and therefore what is the max size that the replacement can be?
                              3. What trim mods are required if any?

                              There must be some BTDT's out there, preferrably with copious pictures Failing that, does anyone have a set of rear trim panels off the car that they can post a picture of? (and then sell me as one of mine is broken)

                              Cheers n

                              Si
                              The OEM tweeters actually screw into the shelf. I've removed countless trims with the tweeters within and tried to level one out once and gave up. I just happened to see one that was loose the other day and twisted out. Not sure of sizes right now cos i'm at work but i'm pretty sure aftermarket tweeters would go in OK because they often come with a couple of different types of pods that will fit into a cut hole (not threaded is what I mean). I dare say someone else has already done this though so please do set me straight.
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                              • S2central.net
                                Retired OG Mod
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 16590
                                • Country: Northern Ireland

                                #30
                                And people wonder why I can't be arsed with this ICE crap... I did miss Bibbys post - bit sporadic here this week, but I didn't want to put all the ICE questions in one thread. I've learnt a fair bit this week - a simple FAQ is needed on the forum and I'll create a page on s2central to explain the various factory setups. Too many 'experts' and so little info that is easily obtainable is frustrating me.
                                Paul Nugent
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