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  • Rusty
    Super Moderator
    • Jun 2004
    • 18953
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Rear subframe problems

    How much is a new rear subframe OR does anyone have a really decent one that I can buy please?

    Now that I've asked the simple question, read below for the reason!

    Decided to spend the day under the arseend of the car pulling the rear suspension to bits to see what needed replacing and what I could live with. Decided to put a bit of underseal on the rear subframe as it was rather rusty. Most of it was just the usual surface rust where the original paint had given up.

    However, when I removed the rear toe control arm on the drivers side, I noticed that there was excessive corrosion around one of the mounting holes. I did the usual thing and made the problem worse by poking it with a screw driver to try and remove the surface rust and then put some underseal on that too to try and stop the rot.

    Unfortunately, the rot had taken hold and there was a hole under the one that Audi had made 12 years ago. This didn't strike me as a particularly great state of affairs so about 10 minutes later after as many 4 letter words as I could fit in, as well as breathing on occasion, I decided that I'd better start to find out what to do about it.

    I'll attach a picture of the problem in a bit.

    I'm looking to get it back to bare metal and then have a plate welded in to strengthen the area for the short term but really I'm thinking that if the subframe is in this state on the bit I had a poke at then it's not going to be ideal in a lot of other areas.

    Basically this leaves me with 2 options:

    1 is to get the subframe off and clean it up, see where it's knackered and where it's not. Repair where necessary and the give it a coat of paint.

    2 is to get a new subframe.
    Cheers'en, AndyC
    1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss
  • Rusty
    Super Moderator
    • Jun 2004
    • 18953
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    'ere be the little ******!
    Attached Files
    Cheers'en, AndyC
    1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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    • s2driveruk
      Super Moderator
      • Jul 2003
      • 12696
      • Country: England

      #3
      ouch, yeah that doesn't look too hot. I'd try and bag a decent used one, bead blast it, get it powder coated, renew all the mounts (subframe, diff and ARB while u can easily get to them then bolt back up as new. You should be able to pick one up for reasonable money....I'm sure BRY is out there lurking somewhere
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      1992 3b S2 Coupe

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      • s2driveruk
        Super Moderator
        • Jul 2003
        • 12696
        • Country: England

        #4
        allaudi.co.uk have an s2 in with front end damage so rear should be ok....
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        1992 3b S2 Coupe

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        • Rusty
          Super Moderator
          • Jun 2004
          • 18953
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #5
          Cheers, I'll try AllAudi tomorrow (I bought the car from them just over 2 years ago).

          Had one of those sinking moments when I found it! Will try and get it welded ASAP and then replace it when I have a shiney new / refurbished one. Needed to replace the RARB with a whiteline, rear arms & new bushes, inboard part of the tie rods and possibly ball joints. Doing the subframe bushes at the same time will be a bonus. Might work out ok.

          Any recommendations of somewhere to refurb a subframe in Bristol / South West?

          If anyone has a rear subframe then please PM me with a price and piccy if you can.
          Cheers'en, AndyC
          1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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          • Rusty
            Super Moderator
            • Jun 2004
            • 18953
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            New one is £640+vat! Ouch.

            Looking at £300 for suspension components, nuts, bolts etc.

            Have budgeted £100 for shot blasting, zinc dip and stoved enamel finish / powder coating.

            These cars aint cheap are they!!
            Cheers'en, AndyC
            1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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            • s2_bo
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Oct 2005
              • 6067
              • Home: United Kingdom Current: France

              #7
              Originally posted by Andy_Casey

              These cars aint cheap are they!!


              91 S2 coupé - RIP
              98 S8 - Luxury barge

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              • WabTheKing
                S2Forum Fiend
                • May 2004
                • 2567
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                i had this problem after id had mine shot blasted, i puddle welded the corners up again and repainted it, worked a treat

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                • WabTheKing
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • May 2004
                  • 2567
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  might even have a spare rear subframe for £50 +p&p will have a look tonight

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                  • mark_s2
                    Account Disabled
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 274
                    • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                    #10
                    Personally I would not bother trying to weld it up. Looking at the pick I would guess it has rotted from the inside out.

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                    • Rusty
                      Super Moderator
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 18953
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #11
                      I'm not going to touch the original, not my area of expertise so would cost too much. If anyone else wants it to play with then let me know and it's yours when it comes off the car!
                      Cheers'en, AndyC
                      1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                      • Rusty
                        Super Moderator
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 18953
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #12
                        Cheers for the advice S2DUk. All Audi have one I can look at. Be good to take the old girl back there after driving off the forecourt just over 2 years ago

                        Just a couple of modifications made since then, having sworn that I'd keep her as she left the factory... thanks to the S2Forum for showing me the error of my ways !
                        Cheers'en, AndyC
                        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                        • s2driveruk
                          Super Moderator
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 12696
                          • Country: England

                          #13
                          cool, lets hope its in good nick...top guys so should be fine!
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                          1992 3b S2 Coupe

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                          • WabTheKing
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • May 2004
                            • 2567
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            Originally posted by mark_s2
                            Personally I would not bother trying to weld it up. Looking at the pick I would guess it has rotted from the inside out.
                            it rots in the corner because thats where all the salt etc off the road get stuck dosent rot from the inside

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                            • Rusty
                              Super Moderator
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 18953
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              Cheers to Alex at All Audi for finding out a rear subframe for me . I've just given it a scrub and it really is much better than I could have hoped for! Down to the hardware shop tomorrow for a wire wheel attachment, a few cans of primer, enamel and underseal.

                              Next question. How do I remove and then fit new mounting bushes? Are they press in or is there a bit more to it!
                              Cheers'en, AndyC
                              1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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