seized bits

[S2Ian]

went to the my local euromaster (only coz its over the road from where i work) wanted them to check the alignment of the wheels. Just coz i wanted to check it was all spot on & they gave me the delightful news that they couldnt do it, the bits they needed to do were siezed. Ive read a thread on this before but i couldnt find it, wondered if anyone has any ideas on prices etc....

They did mention going back to audi and getting it done there, i chuckled and said yeah... ok....

i wanted to get some h&r lowering springs fitted, does this mean that i will incur massive costs to be able to get this done?!?!?!


ian

[Corey]

Don't just fit springs to old damper's, there are other components to change also, top mounts etc.
They are probably refering to the track rod adjuster's that are siezed, patience and care can usually free them off but if you are paying someone else to free them off it is usually cheaper to replace with new.

[S2Ian]

hmmmm should i go to audi to do it??? coz i head about all these dodgy chinese tie rod ends and the threads being crap??!?!?!

[s2_bo]

I had this problem when i had my alignment done. They ended up charging for a whole hours labor just to piss about with a blowtorch in the wheel arches... (never again!! )

To free the nuts on the rod ends you need to heat them up.. this can be done using a little blowtorch.. don't get to close to the brake lines though...

BTW - When i bought my S2 it had ben fitted with lowering springs. But the dampers, topmounts and bushes were still standard... Not recommended at all.. if your gonna do it you may as well do it properly
Other forum members also recommend Koni's or Billsteins with standard springs.


HTH.

Good luck.
Bo

[Jamo]

Don't just fit springs to old damper's, there are other components to change also, top mounts etc.
They are probably refering to the track rod adjuster's that are siezed, patience and care can usually free them off but if you are paying someone else to free them off it is usually cheaper to replace with new.

Track rod ends are brand new since Feb this year Audi OEM, the front dampers are Bilstein in his car.

Changed them at the Garage meet and i had copper slipped them up as they were seized the year before.

I reckon they didn't even try!

[WabTheKing]

try givin em a good soak in diesel for a few days works a treat

[terrybullwon]

i am in the same boat, i would get your alignment check first to make sure its ok and your not just going to loads of work for no reason

[S2Ian]

well i think the guys in the garage are retarded!!!!!!

[terrybullwon]

thats what i said about audi when they had ago at mine

[4WheelDrifter]

I agree. They probably didn't even try.
I was told by one of these tyre fitting places that my track rods were siezed, so I went home and undone them easy. They made a right mess of my adjusters though.
Do they know about the tapered locking collars? 'Cause they won't come undone easily if you don't tap those loose.

If the track rod adjusters really are properly siezed, just be glad you've got an ABY. Try taking the steering arms off a 3B, it's not a 5 minute job.

[Corey]

Track rod ends are brand new since Feb this year Audi OEM, the front dampers are Bilstein in his car.

Changed them at the Garage meet and i had copper slipped them up as they were seized the year before.

I reckon they didn't even try!

This your old Coup Jamo? bound to be shagged out then

For the record I am kidding

Just had a horrid thought, S2Ian, you're not taking the poor thing to a Fast Fecker type place are you?
Take it somewhere that knows what the car is, even Audi **** these things up. Although I do use my local dealership as they do know how to use the alignment and what cars I give them.

[pastures16]

is there any info on the tow in/out front /rear coupe/avant

ive not done mine yet but im thinking of using laseralign we use them on are trucks /trailer

[Corey]

Wheel alignment
Specified values for wheel alignment
Valid for all engines

Front axle
Standard/sports running gear
(1BA and 1BE)
Heavy duty running gear
(1BB)

Overall toe (without load)
+15'±10'
+25'±10'

Camber (straight-ahead position)
-45' ±30'
-25'±30'

Maximum permissible difference between the two sides
max. 30'
max. 30'

Toe difference angle with 20o steering angle from left to right
-1o± 30'
-1o± 30'

Castor (non-adjustable)
+2o 10'± 30'
+2o 10'±30'

Maximum permissible difference between the two sides
max. 30'
max. 30'


Rear axle
Standard/sports running gear
(1BA and 1BE)
Heavy duty running gear
(1BB)

Camber
-40' ± 20'
-40' ± 20'

Maximum permissible difference between the two sides
max. 30'
max. 30'

Toe per wheel
+5'±5'
+5'±5'

Overall toe
+10'±10'
+10'±10


Notes:

◆ Up to chassis no. 8C NA 015 724 there is no running gear information on the data sticker. In such cases, all vehicles are to be adjusted as indicated in the specified value table for vehicles with standard and sports version when performing wheel alignment.
◆ As of chassis no. 8C NA 015 725 the data sticker is provided with the above identification.

Hope that helps?

This is all I can find relating to the S2Avant on this computer, tomorrow may be a different story

[pastures16]

does that apply to avants

[Corey]

If it differs, this is the Avant listing

Wheel alignment
Specified values for wheel alignment
Valid for all engines

Front axle




Standard/sports running gear
(1BA and 1BE)
Heavy duty running gear
(1BB)

Overall toe (without load)
+15'±10'
+25'±10'

Camber (straight-ahead position)
-45' ±30'
-25'±30'

Maximum permissible difference between the two sides
max. 30'
max. 30'

Toe difference angle with 20o steering angle from left to right
-1o± 30'
-1o± 30'

Castor (non-adjustable)
+2o 10'± 30'
+2o 10'±30'

Maximum permissible difference between the two sides
max. 30'
max. 30'


Rear axle




Standard/sports running gear
(1BA and 1BE)
Heavy duty running gear
(1BB)

Camber
-40' ± 20'
-40' ± 20'

Maximum permissible difference between the two sides
max. 30'
max. 30'

Toe per wheel
+5'±5'
+5'±5'

Overall toe
+10'±10'
+10'±10


Notes:

◆ Up to chassis no. 8C NA 015 724 there is no running gear information on the data sticker. In such cases, all vehicles are to be adjusted as indicated in the specified value table for vehicles with standard and sports version when performing wheel alignment.
◆ As of chassis no. 8C NA 015 725 the data sticker is provided with the above identification.