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  • terrybullwon
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Mar 2006
    • 8782
    • Country: England

    #1

    Camber adjustment

    I pressed the bushes from my front arms today.

    On closer inspection i found that the adjustment was full negative one side and full positive the other

    This can not be normal? Any one seen this before?


    Cheers James
    Chef
  • Pirvu Eugen
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Apr 2007
    • 1978
    • Country: Romania

    #2
    Maibe the subframe moved.

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    • terrybullwon
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Mar 2006
      • 8782
      • Country: England

      #3
      Originally posted by Pirvu Eugen
      Maibe the subframe moved.
      That would be scray

      The sub frame bushes looked to be quite tight when i removed them and it was only the gear box ones that had meet there day.

      There was no major tyre wear either
      Chef

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      • Pirvu Eugen
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Apr 2007
        • 1978
        • Country: Romania

        #4
        Maibe from the begining the subframe was tightened in that position and the camber adjusted after that.
        I cant see any problems iff the angles are right and they dont move..

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        • terrybullwon
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Mar 2006
          • 8782
          • Country: England

          #5
          Guess i will bolt it up and set the camber gauge to it
          Chef

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          • Pirvu Eugen
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Apr 2007
            • 1978
            • Country: Romania

            #6
            I am curious about the result....

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            • S2central.net
              Retired OG Mod
              • Jul 2003
              • 16590
              • Country: Northern Ireland

              #7
              Originally posted by terrybullwon
              I pressed the bushes from my front arms today.

              On closer inspection i found that the adjustment was full negative one side and full positive the other

              This can not be normal? Any one seen this before?


              Cheers James
              Well thats not difficult to achieve - the camber on each side is not inter-related.

              The camber is primarily adusted by the position of the bottom ball joint - you'll see it is slotted for movement - independent on each side. I'm gonna tweak mine for max -ve camber soon. Let us know the kind of range of adjustment you can get.


              Paul
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              • mcandmar
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Apr 2004
                • 5118
                • Country: Ireland

                #8
                The subframe has some adjustment in the car, you can also mount the subframe out of line which will change the wheelbase on each side.

                Do you have alloy subframe mounts fitted? I have had my front subframe move position before. I hit a large rut in the road on a very tight right hander, car immediatly felt different so i knew something was wrong. I think its because the alloy mounts have a smooth face vs the stock mount that has a knurled finish where it makes contact with the body. Granted that was a very hard impact, enough to leave a flat spot on the wheel
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                • AndyP
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 6049
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  Originally posted by terrybullwon
                  Guess i will bolt it up and set the camber gauge to it
                  What sort of gauge have you got?
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                  • terrybullwon
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 8782
                    • Country: England

                    #10
                    Originally posted by AndyP
                    What sort of gauge have you got?
                    Andy its my friends he uses it on his and customers rally cars to set up caster and camber for events... Its about £400 i think and its accuate as well
                    Chef

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                    • AndyP
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 6049
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      After many wasted trips to the local tyre monkeys, I've just ordered one of these from the states:-

                      Longacre is an established brand name in the auto racing industry and is known for dedication to quality, innovation, and satisfaction.



                      At just over £100 it's not cheap but as both the S2 and The S4 need setting I figured it was worth it, and I can now try different settings to see what affect they have.
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                      • terrybullwon
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 8782
                        • Country: England

                        #12
                        Originally posted by AndyP
                        After many wasted trips to the local tyre monkeys, I've just ordered one of these from the states:-
                        At just over £100 it's not cheap but as both the S2 and The S4 need setting I figured it was worth it, and I can now try different settings to see what affect they have.
                        Let me know how you get on
                        Chef

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                        • AndyP
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 6049
                          • Country: England

                          #13
                          Originally posted by terrybullwon
                          Let me know how you get on
                          Will do, I'm also working on a DIY wheel alignment set up useing a laser pointer and a digital spirit level. Thats still a work in progress though as Bry pointed a few flaws out in my ideas today!!
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                          • S2central.net
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 16590
                            • Country: Northern Ireland

                            #14
                            You don't need to spend silly money... Just a good straight edge with accurately marked graduations, a piece of string and a bob weight - thats all mine is. Can photo if you like - its on old school thing but it has setup several cars of mine and a few rally cars of others in its time. No batteries, computer interfaces or manual required

                            Paul
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                            2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                            2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                            Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

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                            • AndyP
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 6049
                              • Country: England

                              #15
                              Is it accurate to 0.1 of a degree though? Besides if it hasn't got a digital display, I'm not interested
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