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  • PiterS2
    S2Forum Enthusiast
    • Nov 2009
    • 155
    • Home: Denmark

    #1

    Springs for bilstein shocks

    Hi.

    I just bought some Bilstein shocks for my S2. I'm thinking to buy some new springs also, but i'm not sure which i should buy? Will it be fine with my standard springs?

    Thanks
    Piter
  • Dan
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jun 2008
    • 1242
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    I really recommend trying them with standard springs. It's a good comprimise.

    If you're doing track work then H&R do some lower springs, but people seem to find them too stiff for regular roads.

    Rusty (I think it's Rusty) on here is also meant to be doing some sports springs at some point that should be a good comprimise - I'll be after them when they're out, but until then, I'm sticking with Billies + stock.

    Obviously you might try them with stock and decide I'm completely wrong, but then you can just buy some stiffer springs - better that than waste money on new springs and decide to go back to stock.
    1993 ABY Coupe | BMW R1200 GS
    A6 3.0 TDI Quattro (aka Sonic's 'ring support/cargo vehicle )

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    • Fat Audi 80
      Super Moderator
      • Jan 2004
      • 10547
      • Country: England

      #3
      I am running stock springs on mine with the billys. It is an excellent compromise, firm but will rarely bottom out. It is also very composed on bumpy A roads etc. If you are doing a lot of motorway miles or track use you will get away with H&R's, anywhere else it will be crashy and harsh.

      HTH

      Cheers,

      Steve
      The Perfectionist
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      • Rikki Kitto
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Feb 2010
        • 6276
        • Country: England

        #4
        Got Billies and standard springs, work fine on our lovely uneven roads. Tried lowered springs, nightmare.

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        • PiterS2
          S2Forum Enthusiast
          • Nov 2009
          • 155
          • Home: Denmark

          #5
          I think i keep my standard springs then

          Thanks for your opinion.

          /Piter

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          • Sonic
            Administrator
            • Jul 2006
            • 5514
            • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

            #6
            Originally posted by Fat Audi 80
            I am running stock springs on mine with the billys. It is an excellent compromise, firm but will rarely bottom out. It is also very composed on bumpy A roads etc. If you are doing a lot of motorway miles or track use you will get away with H&R's, anywhere else it will be crashy and harsh.

            HTH

            Cheers,

            Steve


            I went from stock shocks and springs to bilsteins with H&R's. Great on track, awesome on the road, so i changed to adjustable koni's with H&R's, which is even worse than the bilsteins, far more crashy on normal roads.

            I'm going back to stock springs with the koni's.
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            • s2driveruk
              Super Moderator
              • Jul 2003
              • 12696
              • Country: England

              #7
              love mine on H&R's....just need to get used to tramlining and shocking ride on B roads lol
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              • Sonic
                Administrator
                • Jul 2006
                • 5514
                • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                #8
                Originally posted by s2driveruk
                love mine on H&R's....just need to get used to tramlining and shocking ride on B roads lol
                Come and stay at mine for a few weeks.. you'll be begging to change them
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                • Dan
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 1242
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sonic
                  Come and stay at mine for a few weeks.. you'll be begging to change them
                  I guess even the roads are softer down South.

                  1993 ABY Coupe | BMW R1200 GS
                  A6 3.0 TDI Quattro (aka Sonic's 'ring support/cargo vehicle )

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                  • BorisShakhov
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 224
                    • Country: Russian Federation

                    #10
                    Guys are you talking about new oem springs + bili or used? And how is this setup with powerflex+alu subframe bushes for everyday car (avant)?

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                    • Lloyd
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 1559
                      • Home: Wales Current: England

                      #11
                      I'm sorry but H&R's and Billies are definitely in no way crashy or harsh. Seriously.
                      If they are, I wonder if you have a worn part somewhere else on the car.

                      From tests, we've seen that the RS2 H&R's are softer initially than RS2 springs and then when loaded right up only say 10%? stiffer (post is on here somewhere) Main difference is that they are lower, which if you have lots of speed bumps/carry heavy loads might be a pain as you could catch a cat or two.

                      Anyone is welcome for a ride in the passenger seat to see for themselves that this fair feedback.
                      RS2+ (now sold...)

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                      • Sonic
                        Administrator
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 5514
                        • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Lloyd
                        I'm sorry but H&R's and Billies are definitely in no way crashy or harsh. Seriously.
                        If they are, I wonder if you have a worn part somewhere else on the car.

                        From tests, we've seen that the RS2 H&R's are softer initially than RS2 springs and then when loaded right up only say 10%? stiffer (post is on here somewhere) Main difference is that they are lower, which if you have lots of speed bumps might be a pain as you could catch a cat or two.

                        Anyone is welcome for a ride in the passenger seat to see for themselves that this fair feedback.
                        Having had H&R + Billies on mine i'd be interested in the passenger seat ride to see for myself
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                        • Lloyd
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 1559
                          • Home: Wales Current: England

                          #13
                          You're most welcome - sorry to miss you when we were in the Lakes.

                          We're spending a week in Little Langdale again soon, will let you know when.
                          Will also return your Boost Leak kit! Thanks
                          RS2+ (now sold...)

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                          • Lloyd
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 1559
                            • Home: Wales Current: England

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Lloyd
                            I'm sorry but H&R's and Billies are definitely in no way crashy or harsh. Seriously.
                            If they are, I wonder if you have a worn part somewhere else on the car.

                            From tests, we've seen that the RS2 H&R's are softer initially than RS2 springs and then when loaded right up only say 10%? stiffer (post is on here somewhere) Main difference is that they are lower, which if you have lots of speed bumps/carry heavy loads might be a pain as you could catch a cat or two.

                            Anyone is welcome for a ride in the passenger seat to see for themselves that this fair feedback.

                            Having recently made another change to the suspension setup on my car - swapping OEM wishbone bushes for powerflex - I thought I should update/qualify my previous post report.

                            Powerflex have made a significant difference to the ride quality. On the positive side, there is much better steering and braking feel. Car feels much tighter under hard acceleration/deceleration. On the negative side, the car is not as nice to drive over poor surfaces - I would even say it feels a bit harsh. There is now some cabin vibration when driving over poor surfaces, which was not present before.

                            It's great on smooth roads, but going for a drive on B roads it is not the joy it used to be, driving slowly along. It's noticeable enough that my wife asked me what was wrong with the car! Going fast though is much better... Just can't do that all the time

                            [I'm still running OEM subframe, gearbox, rear diff and engine mounts (apart from an apikol rear diff mount).]

                            So, what am I saying... well, if you drive mostly on the road, go ahead and fit billies and HnR - they work a treat - but keep the all the bushes OEM or else. You need some compliance somewhere!
                            Last edited by Lloyd; 4 May 2011, 17:12.
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                            • driftin jo
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 2222
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Dan
                              I guess even the roads are softer down South.

                              last time i looked the lakes was north of leeds

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